What are the best storage heaters?

Ada3050

Jenny what sort are you radiators?

This may be the answer for me also.

thills

Looking online, Nobo make a system that can have full remote control & heating zones. Controlability would reduce running costs.

JennyR68

Ada3050 wrote: »

Jenny what sort are you radiators?

This may be the answer for me also.

Oh dear, I'm very hesitant to say as I got absolutely flamed last time I mentioned them.

There is the opinion that similar results can be obtained with cheap oil filled radiators on timers. I cannot comment as have not tested that route.

I got mine from http://www.economy-radiator.com/ and as I said am very, very happy with them.

Ada3050

Thanks
Well I wont flame you, what suits you may not suit someone else.

If you like them thats all that matters in the end

Cardew

JennyR68 wrote: »

Oh dear, I'm very hesitant to say as I got absolutely flamed last time I mentioned them.

Flamed - heaters;)

It was simply pointed out to you that the very cheapest oil filled radiators produce EXACTLY the same amount of heat for the ££££ running cost as your very expensive radiators.

Very cheap oil filled radiators are thermostatically controlled. It is also very easy and cheap to have them on timers/programmers and remote control.

With regard to electrical heating by off-peak or a 'normal' 24/7 tariff, there is no 'one size fits all' solution.

The downside of storage heaters on E7/E10 is you often waste 'leaked' heat and pay more for daytime electricity.

On the other hand the majority of your heat is produced from far cheaper off peak electricity as well as cheap hot water.

Swipe

JennyR68 wrote: »

I got mine from http://www.economy-radiator.com/ and as I said am very, very happy with them.

heater_website wrote:

3 bed house - (5 to 7 radiators supply only) £1500 to £2100

You'd have to be crazy to pay that for 13amp plug socket wall mounted panel heaters, and that is supply only. You could buy the equivalent for £150-£200 yourself. And the website says 60% energy saving, but compared to what?

thills

All interesting. I opted for an ASHP but planning was refused (apartment) so stuck with one of the alternates. Capital cost, for me is not paramount, comfort & running costs are. Good E7/10 storage heaters are not cheap. While I realise some panel heaters are expensive, some can be zoned & centrally controlled (Nobo) so the "system" would be convenient to use/run.
CARDEW:
E7 costs 5p/12p KWH, general tariffs 9p/10p. So, yes, E& would be cheaper to run. I can find no storage heaters that can be fully centrally operated, even the best require individual control, but you can control remotely the fan.
If the insulation was perfect, you could fully charge at night & heat not used would cut the charge required the next night, if the makers feel they need auto charge control, then I suspect the insulation is not that good.
Heat during the day is wasted for me, so response & controllability is what I need (not something I would have got with ASHP)
Tariffs like eco 20/20 close the gap between E7 & standard & should work well for my requirements.
As you can see, i'm split right down the middle.

Thanks.

Ada3050

Lets not start another flame war against jenny, she is happy and thats that.

I am pretty sure either the duo heat and eco response heating can be linked together to centrally control the heaters.
These two seem to provide the best balance between stored heat and instant heat that you are looking for.

Cardew

Ada3050 wrote: »

Lets not start another flame war against jenny, she is happy and thats that.

Nobody is starting a 'flame war' against anyone.

However there are many people on this forum who have no knowledge of electrical heating(and why should they?) and can be easily fooled by these disgraceful adverts selling vastly overpriced heaters by using technical 'mumbo jumbo' designed to confuse.

This is a Money Saving forum and everyone should be aware that, by definition, all electrical heaters from the humble £10 fan heater to over-hyped radiators, filled with so called magic ingredients and costing £hundreds each, produce exactly the same amount of heat for the same running cost.

If Jenny is happy with her radiators - then fine. However the firm she recommends is quite typical of those I criticise; phrases like 'Economy heating' & '60% cheaper' all designed to fool the technically naive that they somehow are more economical than other heaters.

Their plug in heaters cost on average £300 to £350 each. You can buy thermostatically controlled, ultra thin, wall mounted panel heaters with individual timers for around £40.

So perhaps Jenny can explain to Money Savers why her heaters would justify them spending 8 times as much as on other heaters?

JennyR68

I understand what your trying to say Cardew, what I don't understand is why you only say it to me.

Why are you not on here saying buy a £40 heater to everyone who enquires about electric heating?

Why not ask Penrhyn and Ada3050 to justify why they are recommending heaters of a comparable cost?

I didn't come on here pushing my system, but the fact is storage heating is not the only option out there and people need to be aware they have choices. If they choose a system that suits their heating needs, aesthetics and pocket that should be respected. I was not commenting on initial set up costs but on running costs. I only mentioned the system when pointedly asked to, knowing you would appear and have a pop.

I'll be back in May with the results of my first quarters use and people can make their own minds up as to whether the system performs as claimed or not.

Just give it a rest till then, I'm not getting in to another argument with you.