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What are the best storage heaters?
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Oh dear, I'm very hesitant to say as I got absolutely flamed last time I mentioned them.
There is the opinion that similar results can be obtained with cheap oil filled radiators on timers. I cannot comment as have not tested that route.
I got mine from http://www.economy-radiator.com/ and as I said am very, very happy with them.
Im glad you are very happy with your heaters, but how can anyone justify paying out that kind of money for them when a £30 quid plug in rad will do just the same job...:eek: I suppose all your paying for is something that looks slightly better than your normal plug in rad . ..but does the same job.....If it cost say £1600 for those heaters then why not wait a bit longer to save a bit more to have a decent CH system put in ,,, those heaters are daylight robbery ....:eek: cor I bet that company rub their hands when people go and buy from them ,,,,and they call themslves the ECONOMY rad co !!!!0 -
The same could be said of someone who buys a mercedes, jaguar or volvo when they could have bought a fiesta. They do the same job at the end of the day.
Lets be mindful of the OP's request, what are the best storage heaters?
Jenny likes her heating, my reply was to point out the latest versions of storage heating. Cost wasn't a factor in the original post but comfort was.
All we can suggest is what we like and then let the OP decide which will suit best.
We can also point out the cost of the various systems and let people decide for them selves.Know the difference between what you WANT and what you NEED. :T0 -
Yes I understand what your saying ,but as this is a MoneySaving Website I thought money would be the first thought of where anyone could save a buck or 2 on buying heaters .....as I always say its personal choice on whatever we buy but not necessary economically.The same could be said of someone who buys a mercedes, jaguar or volvo when they could have bought a fiesta. They do the same job at the end of the day.
Lets be mindful of the OP's request, what are the best storage heaters?
Jenny likes her heating, my reply was to point out the latest versions of storage heating. Cost wasn't a factor in the original post but comfort was.
All we can suggest is what we like and then let the OP decide which will suit best.
We can also point out the cost of the various systems and let people decide for them selves.0 -
Cardew is absolutely right, but if you are happy with them, then they are good. Anyone who can't opt for GCH has limited choice for economical (to run) heating. Having been turned down by planning for an ASHP, I started this thread to draw on other peoples views, of which your's was one. Initially, I was of the opinion that it had to be E7/10 & storage heating. For pence/KWH it is better, but not if your losing those KWH heating an empty property. Topping up costs you much more.
Money saving, to me means getting what you wan't but for the best possible value.
I'm leaning towards elegant panel heaters contrilled by a Danfoss DeviLink system. Hopefully, the heating control will minimise KWH useage.0 -
ps. Not everything works as it should. Where I live now, I replaced a 12 Y/O boiler with a condensing boiler, to "save" gas. Annual gas consumption dropped < 5%; what did change was that instead of warming the house from 14 to 21 in 40 minitues (0 outside) , it now takes nearly 3 hours, so I have to leave it idling at 17, hence the no saving, I guess.0
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The same could be said of someone who buys a mercedes, jaguar or volvo when they could have bought a fiesta. They do the same job at the end of the day.
That is not a reasonable analogy. The Mercedes is bigger, faster, more comfortable, safer, more expensive to run etc etc.
It would apply if a £12,000 Fiesta had a better appearance, but EXACTLY the same characteristics(particularly economy;)) and the 'Economic car company' charged £100,000 for their car!!!
I appreciate you find it distasteful for Jenny to receive more criticism, but I am afraid she brings it upon herself.
Jenny spent a whole thread defying logic to desperately defend her choice of heater on the grounds of running costs.
Despite having not one person who agreed with her argument(that her heaters were more economical than some costing 10 times less) yet again in this thread she sees fit to give these heaters a recommendation and a link to their website; and her latest post implies that in May she will have some 'proof' of her claims.
Frankly I find it distasteful that to justify her decision, Jenny is prepared to lead others toward making a clearly unwise purchase.0 -
Fair point Cardew.
I didn't see the thread so don't want to open a debate either way.
I suggest we it leave there and let the OP decide what he wants to do.Know the difference between what you WANT and what you NEED. :T0 -
No Ada3050 it's not a fair point. I clearly said in my first post that it is claimed on this forum 'cheap' heaters would perform the same.
I did not try to promote my particular system , just the benefits of a thermostatically controlled system. I encouraged the OP to do more research himself.
I only said what I had because I was expressly asked and despite my better judgement I had the courtesy to respond. I was not hesitant because of any reservations about my heaters, purely because of Cardew's attitude to them and me. An attitude I cannot understand because he does not shout down everyone else who dares to spend more than £40 on a heater.
Would he have batted an eyelid if I had said I had replaced my old storage heaters with new storage heaters costing £1000. I suspect not, he had no negative words for the OP.
At the end of the day I'm the one sat here with a history of a daily average of 45kwh during my last year of E7. We're half way through march and my daily use has dropped to under 40kwh. But then I don't 'need' to convince anyone, it is of no benefit to me.
I just hope the OP is allowed to reach his decision without the ridicule I was subjected to when I made mine.0 -
I just hope the OP is allowed to reach his decision without the ridicule I was subjected to when I made mine.
You know perfectly well the grounds for the 'ridicule'(your term!) you received.
If anyone wants to read the thread it is here:
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=2194373
Nobody questions the validity of choosing panel heaters on a 24/7 tariff as opposed to storage heating on an E7/E10 tariff.
As has been stated many time there are factors that weigh for and against each system.
The whole point was your refusal to accept that, in essence, you had paid about 10 times more for your plug in heaters than any sensible money saver would have paid.
That you had been taken in by the advert - as you clearly have no electrical knowledge - is your problem.
However as carefully explained by poster after poster, you still maintain that your heaters are endowed with some special properties that make them somehow more economical than heaters costing one tenth or less than you paid.
Just to make it absolutely clear, it doesn't matter what conclusion you come to in May, it is 100% certain that a similar system to yours, but costing one tenth of the capital outlay, would have produced exactly the same amount of heat for your running costs.
We all are taken for a ride at some time in our life, however most of us(I hope) warn others when we have been conned. You seem to want others to make the same mistake and spend £1000, or more, than needed to get a system with the same running costs.0 -
Cardew you know fine well I am not on here promoting my system to justify myself every time someone asks about electric heating.
I commented on this post to point out the possible benefits of thermostatic electric heating to the OP. Only when pressed, i ignored first request , did I say what I have. In hindsight I wish i'd responded by saying "something like this" - http://www.alertelectrical.com/Electric-Heating-Fixed/Panel-Heaters-and-Radiators/Elnur-Designer-Radiators/ where the product type sits plain and simple on the page with none of the hype that winds you up so.
I do not believe in 'magic properties'. I wasn't conned by the website I was recommended by friends who used the company. There is not enough information given here as you imagine on the capabilities of a 'cheap' heater. When people come on here in frustration at their storage heaters they get lectured on how to 'use them properly' no one suggests they might be happier and better off ripping out and changing for a few cheap heaters.
I won't be back in May promoting my system, I'll be demonstrating for the benefit of all the frustrated storage heater owners stuck in all electric houses thinking this is as good as it gets that other systems can be cheaper, easier to run and more enviromentally friendly.
If others can do it the same cheaper I'm very happy for them. I do wish all the happy 'cheap panel' users would come and support with their figures just how reasonable electric heating is. I can't comment on that I only have the evidence for mine. But don't worry I won't be naming names.
38kw for yesterday, spring must be on the way :j0
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