Round the World flights rip off

gordikin

Incapuppy wrote: »

Speak for yourself, I've seen some of the places he's stayed!

Can you provide absolute proof?

Incapuppy

gordikin wrote: »

Can you provide absolute proof?

Oh I didn't realise this was the Spanish Inquisition :rotfl:

but in order to humour you......yes

Next?

Mr_Lahey

Incapuppy wrote: »

Oh I didn't realise this was the Spanish Inquisition :rotfl:

but in order to humour you......yes

Next?

:rotfl:

Some people!!

Moonchild

Mr_Lahey wrote: »

Ive been sat in my office today passing the hours away searching for a few particular flights.
The flights are:

London - New Delhi
Trivandrum - Singapore
Singapore - Los Angeles
New York - London

So i wondered about building a RTW ticket and seeing what the price was. Let me tell you £1400 more expensive than booking the exact same flights separately.

The only benefits i can see to getting an RTW Ticket is flexibility and miles.

Otherwise its a rip off.

Right, don't care about what's going on above, but would like to address this.

I've just gone and looked at a globe, and I have no idea why you want the RTW, as you are not going around the world. You need a 'down a bit, down a bit more, right a bit, quite a bit more right, then right more all the way back to where you started ticket."

Unfortunately as far as I'm aware that doesn't fit into your rip-off theory.

However if you were to fit in a brief stopover on the other side of the world (like, NZ, or Oz at a push) even for a day or two, you could get the following:

London - Delhi (Virgin). Trivandrum - Singapore (Silk Air). Singapore - Auckland (or somewhere similar in that part of the world - Singapore Airlines), Auckland - LA (Air New Zealand), New York - London (Virgin) on a RTW ticket called the Great Escapade for £1248 including tax.

Even worse you could have a load of additional free stops! Free!

Anyway, just to repeat £1,248 from 13 April - 30 June departures. That's less than the amount you claim you're being ripped off by!!!

Gowon then, price those up individually, I expect you to be able to get them for -£152 to prove your 'rip-off theory'.

Anyway. Rip-off threads. The ultimate in tedium.

Mr_Lahey

I've just gone and looked at a globe, and I have no idea why you want the RTW, as you are not going around the world. You need a 'down a bit, down a bit more, right a bit, quite a bit more right, then right more all the way back to where you started ticket."

I always thought a RTW ticket was exactly that. I mean forgive me for thinking that "round the world" meant leaving East and returning from the West. How stupid of me to think that going the full way around the world meant going round the world :cool:

Unfortunately as far as I'm aware that doesn't fit into your rip-off theory.

Ive busted it already so it does.

However if you were to fit in a brief stopover on the other side of the world (like, NZ, or Oz at a push) even for a day or two, you could get the following:

London - Delhi (Virgin). Trivandrum - Singapore (Silk Air). Singapore - Auckland (or somewhere similar in that part of the world - Singapore Airlines), Auckland - LA (Air New Zealand), New York - London (Virgin) on a RTW ticket called the Great Escapade for £1248 including tax.

Even worse you could have a load of additional free stops! Free!

Anyway, just to repeat £1,248 from 13 April - 30 June departures. That's less than the amount you claim you're being ripped off by!!!

Gowon then, price those up individually, I expect you to be able to get them for -£152 to prove your 'rip-off theory'.

Lon - Delhi £247 - Air India
Trivandrum - KUL - £34 Air Asia
Bangkok - Lax £337 Malaysian
NYC - Lon £220 Icelandair
Total = £838

£410 saving on your ticket. But i don't even want to go to Australia. So like i said way back on page one - You have arrived here and completely avoided all the facts and come up with something to back up your own "its not a rip off" when actually it is.

Moonchild

Mr_Lahey wrote: »

I always thought a RTW ticket was exactly that. I mean forgive me for thinking that "round the world" meant leaving East and returning from the West. How stupid of me to think that going the full way around the world meant going round the world :cool:

You can call it what you want, you can call your version of "round the world" a packet of candyfloss for all I care, which I don't.

An airline Round The World takes in a stopover in OZ/NZ, aka the other side of the world from the UK. So stop trying to compare apples and pears.

I'm really happy to managed to find your chosen routing for less than £1,000 with a bunch of rubbish airlines (except the excellent Malaysia Airlines) - well done.

However your routing you've found is £837.78 more expensive than a tin of beans I saw in the shops this morning, so you've been ripped off.

I've previously posted a rtw entirely on low cost carriers that could be done for peanuts. Took in some amazing places. However wouldn't dream of comparing it with a decent rtw on decent carriers such as Air NZ or Singapore Airlines.

A RTW ticket by it's nature is valid for 12 months, and allows date changes free or very cheaply, and often re-routing. These are benefits you don't need. Why are you bothering with the comparison? Last month Air New Zealand was offering £644 (inc tax) for a basic RTW. Is that automatically better than your deal as it's cheaper? Well, yes according to your theorem.

Skodas and Ferraris come to mind.

Mr_Lahey

Moonchild wrote: »

You can call it what you want, you can call your version of "round the world" a packet of candyfloss for all I care, which I don't.

An airline Round The World takes in a stopover in OZ/NZ, aka the other side of the world from the UK. So stop trying to compare apples and pears.

I'm really happy to managed to find your chosen routing for less than £1,000 with a bunch of rubbish airlines (except the excellent Malaysia Airlines) - well done.

However your routing you've found is £837.78 more expensive than a tin of beans I saw in the shops this morning, so you've been ripped off.

I've previously posted a rtw entirely on low cost carriers that could be done for peanuts. Took in some amazing places. However wouldn't dream of comparing it with a decent rtw on decent carriers such as Air NZ or Singapore Airlines.

A RTW ticket by it's nature is valid for 12 months, and allows date changes free or very cheaply, and often re-routing. These are benefits you don't need. Why are you bothering with the comparison? Last month Air New Zealand was offering £644 (inc tax) for a basic RTW. Is that automatically better than your deal as it's cheaper? Well, yes according to your theorem.

Skodas and Ferraris come to mind.

How can you sit and argue that leaving East and returning from the West isnt round the world??

Rubbish airlines - I don't really care in all honesty what the airline is, i have flown more times than i could remember and to me now flying is like getting the bus, so long as it gets me there safely i couldn't care less what it says on the side. The reality is there is very little between most airlines these days anyway (In Economy)

Still, ill go around the world in my Skoda whilst you sit parked up with your tin of beans in your ferrari.

Moonchild

I'm not arguing anything. It's a RTW airline stipulation that you must stop (albeit for 1 night) in Australia & New Zealand unless you utilise the One World Explorer (BA / Qantas). That's what an airline rtw is. You are not doing an airline rtw. So therefore you cannot compare your trip to a rtw ticket. Therefore it is not a rip-off.

As everyone here will show you can fly London to Barcelona for 0.02p return. No doubt that same trip on a RTW ticket would cost thousands more.

A rip-off compares like for like pricing.

I'd be wary about making judgements as well. One airline is not like another. A 12 hour flight can have vast differences in quality in economy. Every flight I make is a value decision based on comfort vs entertainment vs price vs upgrade / mileage vs reliability, and last year I made that judgement on 15 return flights to Asia.

Long haul flying is so common, such good value, and probably partaken by the vast majority of this board, so I have no idea why you want to start a 'Hey look at me i'm flying Air India and Air Asia and Icelandair' thread. But if you're looking for a well done, well done. I hope you impress whoever you're trying to impress.

Mr_Lahey

Moonchild wrote: »

I'm not arguing anything. It's a RTW airline stipulation that you must stop (albeit for 1 night) in Australia & New Zealand unless you utilise the One World Explorer (BA / Qantas). That's what an airline rtw is. You are not doing an airline rtw. So therefore you cannot compare your trip to a rtw ticket. Therefore it is not a rip-off.

As everyone here will show you can fly London to Barcelona for 0.02p return. No doubt that same trip on a RTW ticket would cost thousands more.

A rip-off compares like for like pricing.

I'd be wary about making judgements as well. One airline is not like another. A 12 hour flight can have vast differences in quality in economy. Every flight I make is a value decision based on comfort vs entertainment vs price vs upgrade / mileage vs reliability, and last year I made that judgement on 15 return flights to Asia.

I guess this is where you have come unstuck. You see the only long haul flight i have is from Bangkok to LAX, 18hrs or so with Malaysian when connected from KUL.

If i fly business (which i do quite a lot) then the airline is of vast importance since the difference in quality is often quite substantial. However, all my flights will be in Economy and from experience there is very little between the product offered by most airlines.
As for the miles i am Flying club platinum and a member of several other airlines frequent flyer programmes and it means nothing. Except for the access to lounges and the odd cheap flight/upgrade/companion flight. Certainly not worth paying loads extra for a particular airline.

If you have made 15 return trips to Asia, then i can only conclude that you must have paid thousands extra in order to keep up with your little formula.

Moonchild

Mr_Lahey wrote: »

I guess this is where you have come unstuck. You see the only long haul flight i have is from Bangkok to LAX, 18hrs or so with Malaysian when connected from KUL.

If you have made 15 return trips to Asia, then i can only conclude that you must have paid thousands extra in order to keep up with your little formula.

I have no idea what your point is, but I can only summarise if that you are trying to show off. Again, well done if it makes you happy.

Having lived and worked in Asia i've pretty much utilised every airline flying east, and would happily spend more to fly Qatar or Etihad or Malaysian over say, Air India or Egypt Air or KLM, Royal Brunei or whatever is cheapest. Often the cheapest is my preferred choice. I want legroom, entertainment, decent food & service, quick transit, and to ensure that i'm not stuck in the middle. I normally get all these all very cheaply.

Even on whatever you want to term LHR-DEL, it's still 8 1/2 hours so it's long enough, just like flying from New York to London via Iceland. I'd pay extra to fly direct, to get seat back TV's, and possibly to get extra leg room.

Anyway, well done, pat on the back and all that.