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Warning to anyone selling FREE SIM CARDS

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  • calleyw
    calleyw Posts: 9,896 Forumite
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    Rex_Mundi wrote:
    The free sims that people are sending off for have a registered name/address.............. The person that sends off for them (your name and address that they send them to). If you apply in false names for these, how much more suspicious is that going to look? (they still need an address to send to).

    Think you are missing the point I was trying to make.

    Yes they are being sent to a name and address and codes being taken to know who they have been sent to.

    That is totally different to who the sims are registered to. And the mobile phone companies will know who they are sent to and if a different person has registered it and to what phone.

    I would have thought that when they search for owns a sim/phone they would be going through the system to see who registered that sim and to which phone not who they sent it to orginally.

    Because if I want to find out who owns a phone if they have been naughty what do I do. I want to know who registered the sim NOT who it was sent to. And only if I could not track them from who regsitered the sim I would then find out who it was sent to.

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    Calley
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  • Rex_Mundi
    Rex_Mundi Posts: 6,312 Forumite
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    calleyw wrote:
    Think you are missing the point I was trying to make.

    Yes they are being sent to a name and address and codes being taken to know who they have been sent to.

    That is totally different to who the sims are registered to. And the mobile phone companies will know who they are sent to and if a different person has registered it and to what phone.

    I would have thought that when they search for owns a sim/phone they would be going through the system to see who registered that sim and to which phone not who they sent it to orginally.

    Because if I want to find out who owns a phone if they have been naughty what do I do. I want to know who registered the sim NOT who it was sent to. And only if I could not track them from who regsitered the sim I would then find out who it was sent to.

    Cally..............It would be wonderfull if everyone was as honest/naive as your posts suggests. It would make the police job so much easier for them.

    I still have the same PAYG sim from two or three years ago. I've never used this for anything dodgy, and I've NEVER registered it. It serves me well for what I need a mobile for (work).

    If I was planning to commit a crime. Do you honestly think that I would register a phone that I planned to use on the crime? This thread shows all of us that it is so easy to buy a sim that has NO CONNECTION WHATSOEVER TO THE PERSON THAT USES IT.

    Think about it...........(this is very topical for the present situation)...........

    Myself and a couple of others want to spread bombs about, rob a bank, murder someone (this is for the purpose of supposition, honestly it's only an example). We need mobile phones to keep in touch with each other. Do you honestly believe that we would use our own phones for this? (or use another phone?) It would even be a mistake to use our own mobile phone (considering IMEI number) with a different sim in.

    If anyone was serious about this. They would buy a couple of unlocked mobiles along with a couple of sims for cash from a market/car boot/pub/anyone that was foolish enough to sell without records (THEY WOULD NOT REGISTER THE PHONE/SIM TO THEMSELVES). The only trace the police would have is not for who bought the phone/sim, but whoever was sent the sim in the beginning.

    This is why I think this thread is so good. This point has been obvious to me for a long time. I hope it has opened a few peoples eyes to the possible dangers/problems.
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  • SmileBeHappy
    SmileBeHappy Posts: 9,124 Forumite
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    howveer the police can trace exactly where these calls texts are coming from!! therefore me selling them over ebay or whatever to ppl living miles away, keeps me safer than u giving them to ur mates living round the corner
    Not that this thread will stop me, i make too much money
    Laura
  • hollydays
    hollydays Posts: 19,812 Forumite
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    I always thought the police could only trace a call if they had the trace set up at the time eg for serious crimes.Put me right someone.Has it changed,or is it different for mobiles?
  • SmileBeHappy
    SmileBeHappy Posts: 9,124 Forumite
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    hollydays wrote:
    I always thought the police could only trace a call if they had the trace set up at the time eg for serious crimes.Put me right someone.Has it changed,or is it different for mobiles?
    nope they can trace any txt call or even the location that phone or number is at the moment- i watched it on the bill

    laura
  • Gavinski_2
    Gavinski_2 Posts: 26 Forumite
    i watched it on the bill

    laura

    You are kidding me right? Watching something on a TV series does NOT mean it is true.

    (Although i'm not saying it is false, i'm stating that "i watched it on the bill" is useless in terms of proving a point).
  • anewman
    anewman Posts: 9,200 Forumite
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    Making money from sim cards is not such a bright idea anyway.

    Why not let the people who want sims for free order them, or pass them on to people you know want them, at no charge, if you happen to have spares? - brighten someone's day with a freebie
  • SmileBeHappy
    SmileBeHappy Posts: 9,124 Forumite
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    anewman wrote:
    Making money from sim cards is not such a bright idea anyway.

    Why not let the people who want sims for free order them, or pass them on to people you know want them, at no charge, if you happen to have spares? - brighten someone's day with a freebie
    what a crazy idea, if u see how much money is made from these (its some people i knows full time job) then you may change ur mind. I do give them away for free if ppl want, but most people have sim cards already
    Most people who really want a sim card will buy one (probs from people off ebay like me), it is really only resellers who order the freebies
  • deeds
    deeds Posts: 400 Forumite
    Gavinski wrote:
    You are kidding me right? Watching something on a TV series does NOT mean it is true.

    (Although i'm not saying it is false, i'm stating that "i watched it on the bill" is useless in terms of proving a point).

    It is true, the police can sometimes also get text message contents too :eek:
    Just because you are offended, doesn't mean you are right
  • Hmmm, think this has gone from a friendly warning to a 'blown-out-of-all-proportion' thread.

    As they knew who comitted these 'crimes', I find it odd that they'd need to get the sim card seller involved in the first place.

    As stated, mobile phones can be traced by signal. Sim cards didn't HAVE to be registered at one time, but I believe that they do now. Before someone gives me the 'false address' schpiel, that's regardless. They can still track at LEAST when and where the phone was used.

    Go ahead and sell your free sims. The likelihood of this happening again is very small.
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