not disabled enough to watch a film !?!

jazabelle

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

I'm always interested when people can manage certain things when it suits them and not when it doesn't. This seems to be one of those situations.

I don't actually see how it contradicts? I've given some ideas of how she could make a flight more comfortable off the top of my head. She said she doesn't like sitting next to each other, so I suggested perhaps she just sits next to her boyfriend. Perhaps she gets on a flight at the beginning or at the end so as not be crowded, maybe she gets the extra leg room seats to stretch to help her twitches? I'm sure there are loads of extra things she could do to help herself.

Mupette

jazabelle wrote: »

Well, by some of the comments on this thread, disabled people should just stay at home and stop whinging. They shouldn't hope that public facilities provide reasonable adjustments so they can enjoy activities like everyone else. And if they point out difficulties, they are complainers, playing the disabled card, wanting special treatment, etc.

Going to the cinema is pretty much agony for me, because I can't sit still, there isn't enough leg room, even if I sit at the end of an aisle (and if I sit at the front I have to look up which hurts my neck.) If there was a way I could have leg room and not kill my neck, I'd be thrilled I could go to the cinema, which was something I used to love to do.

Was wondering that too.

Ah well i'll just stay at home and not have a life.
I'm disabled so I'm not actually allowed a life so it seems, cinemas are only allowed for the visible disabled. Unless i am expected to take my wheelchair and sit cramped in it for how ever long the film is. (for any *cough* non fibro / MS expert out there already knows if i can walk however painful it is, then i should walk if its a form of exercise i can do,

I think i would risk sitting next to the OP, rather than the people who spend most of the film chatting to their mates, allowing their kids to shout and scream and run riot around the cinema and ruin it for everyone.

MSE has become very judgemental, if you claim benefits you are scum.
If you are disabled - how dare you have a voice
The experts who know all about your illness, yet are neither sufferers or doctors/consultants - becuase they know a friends, brothers, uncles great aunt who might of had it.

We may voice our opinions loudly, its because we have to, its to shout above the din of 'you lot should be locked away, not seen and not heard'

or the classic, your faking it your not ill, your just too lazy to work and pretend just to get benefits.

or your waving your disability card.

Oldernotwiser

jazabelle wrote: »

I don't actually see how it contradicts? I've given some ideas of how she could make a flight more comfortable off the top of my head. She said she doesn't like sitting next to each other, so I suggested perhaps she just sits next to her boyfriend. Perhaps she gets on a flight at the beginning or at the end so as not be crowded, maybe she gets the extra leg room seats to stretch to help her twitches? I'm sure there are loads of extra things she could do to help herself.

And does she also take sleeping pills when she's on a bus or having a night out in the pub?

jetta_wales

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

I'm always interested when people can manage certain things when it suits them and not when it doesn't. This seems to be one of those situations.

I can cross a road if I absolutaly have to but there's a good chance I'll get hit and it frightens the he'll out of me so if I can avoid it I certainly will do so. I can over cook my food to make sure it's not raw but if I can ask somewhen when it's not pink anymore then the meal will be much nicer.

Yes many of us can do more than we usualy would if we absolutaly had to but to do them every all the time would make life much harder than it already has to be and can even be unsafe so we find that middle ground where we try and keep as much as independence as wee can but not at too higher cost.

A short hall flight is just one hour that would an eye opening experience for a person sat next to somebody with torrets, it could be awkward the person with torrets will probably find it as unpleasant as whoever is on the recieving end of the nudges but it's one hour once it's not exactly fun but it's not impossible either.

Now try paying attention to a film you've paid to see while being nudged and such throughout it by somebody with a condition you may have no understanding off. She could even end up being shouted at for it or worse.

If you're going to make any assumptions maybe it could be a positive one not a negative one or better still just don't judge at all it's completely unnecessary and serves no good purpose it just causes negativity.

atherlon

i never belived that mse would have so meny bigots but ive been proved wrong

jazabelle

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

And does she also take sleeping pills when she's on a bus or having a night out in the pub?

What point are you trying to make?

That because she posted she has some difficulties going to the cinema, she shouldn't socialise, use public transport or go on holiday? Perhaps she has difficulties with all those things as well, but gets on with it because she has no other choice, except you know, staying at home 24/7. Is that what you want her to do?

Did you want her to come back and say oh god, you are right. I should just stop trying to do frivolous things like have a life, because you judge it so.

jetta_wales

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

And does she also take sleeping pills when she's on a bus or having a night out in the pub?

Change the record it's getting old now.

How can people live life looking at everyone in this way, we're all guilty of whatever assumption one jumps to unless we can prove otherwise?

How sad.

Mupette

jetta_wales wrote: »

I can cross a road if I absolutaly have to but there's a good chance I'll get hit and it frightens the he'll out of me so if I can avoid it I certainly will do so. I can over cook my food to make sure it's not raw but if I can ask somewhen when it's not pink anymore then the meal will be much nicer.

Yes many of us can do more than we usualy would if we absolutaly had to but to do them every all the time would make life much harder than it already has to be and can even be unsafe so we find that middle ground where we try and keep as much as independence as wee can but not at too higher cost.

A short hall flight is just one hour that would an eye opening experience for a person sat next to somebody with torrets, it could be awkward the person with torrets will probably find it as unpleasant as whoever is on the recieving end of the nudges but it's one hour once it's not exactly fun but it's not impossible either.

Now try paying attention to a film you've paid to see while being nudged and such throughout it by somebody with a condition you may have no understanding off. She could even end up being shouted at for it or worse.

If you're going to make any assumptions maybe it could be a positive one not a negative one or better still just don't judge at all it's completely unnecessary and serves no good purpose it just causes negativity.

tell you what, we can help each other, i don't like raw meat and can tell you when its cooked if you cook for me, i can't lift pans with water in hot or cold, because i keep dropping them, also means the removal of stuff from the oven too... god my arms are so scarred from burning/scolding myself.

jetta_wales

Mupette wrote: »

tell you what, we can help each other, i don't like raw meat and can tell you when its cooked if you cook for me, i can't lift pans with water in hot or cold, because i keep dropping them, also means the removal of stuff from the oven too... god my arms are so scarred from burning/scolding myself.

So long as you don't mind a dimly lit house and lots of closed curtains then we're good. I can lift anything in and out of the oven but you'd have to read and food packaging and tell me when things are cooked as I see in black and white. Also if I'm about to poor a can of hotdogs sausages or baked beans into my spag bol instead of a can of chopped tomatoes then do stop me lol.

But who are we to need to help we should just live off microwave ready meals and stop complaining so much.

Ah well I'm definatly a happier person for not always looking for flaws in everything anybody ever says so it's their loss not ours.

Night night folks, catch you again I'm sure :-)

Mupette

jetta_wales wrote: »

So long as you don't mind a dimly lit house and lots of closed curtains then we're good. I can lift anything in and out of the oven but you'd have to read and food packaging and tell me when things are cooked as I see in black and white. Also if I'm about to poor a can of hotdogs sausages or baked beans into my spag bol instead of a can of chopped tomatoes then do stop me lol.

But who are we to need to help we should just live off microwave ready meals and stop complaining so much.

Ah well I'm definatly a happier person for not always looking for flaws in everything anybody ever says so it's their loss not ours.

Night night folks, catch you again I'm sure :-)

suits me fine, eases the headaches, and stops the nosey neighbours looking in too.

Reminds me of my kitchen, i keep the blind down to stop my neighbours nosing in, (block of flats, walkway outside the window)

Got a lovely neighbour who is rude and nasty and judgemental .... hmm should tell her of mse, yet if you tell her to put a sock in it, out comes the I'm a pensioner..