TV Licence - No TV

hippey

lucylucky wrote: »

"Under caution" - will there be a police presence?

TVL have no right of access to your property and you do not need to engage in any sort of dialogue with them, should you choose not to do so.

Just to add, just because you don't have a TV doesn't mean you don't need a licence.

Under caution doesn't mean a police presence....

A number of 'enforcement' agencies can use statements supplied for court and as such will 'caution' you to obtain these, it doesn't mean you have to say anything but what you do say could be given in evidence in court. Even if police are not present....

An example of this is

Trading Standards
Revenue Protection Inspectors on the Railway or TfL
etc etc..

It is just a way of making what you say disclosable.

hippey

lucylucky wrote: »

You could have a lot of fun with them - if you can be bothered.;)

I did this many years ago, they were convinced that a business we ran was watching TV, we invited them in sat them down and they took statements etc... offered the two inspectors a nice cup to tea and they invited them around every room in the factory!

Only for them to find a TV you could see the excitement on their faces, bingo they thought! It was a shame the TV dated back to the 40's, and had no possible way of receiving TV programmes!

However they were impressed that we were nice to them and they never came back!

lucylucky

hippey wrote: »

Under caution doesn't mean a police presence....

A number of 'enforcement' agencies can use statements supplied for court and as such will 'caution' you to obtain these, it doesn't mean you have to say anything but what you do say could be given in evidence in court. Even if police are not present....

An example of this is

Trading Standards
Revenue Protection Inspectors on the Railway or TfL
etc etc..

It is just a way of making what you say disclosable.

Of course since you need not enter any sort of conversation with TVL then they can do nothing - under caution or not;)

patman99

TV detector vans work perfectly well at detecting CRT sets, its' the Plasma & LCD ones they have no chance of detecting. This is why when you buy a new (or second hand) set, the seller is legally required to inform TVL of your name and address. Of course, if you pay cash & provide a false name/address, then there is nothing TVL can do.

moonrakerz

patman99 wrote: »

TV detector vans work perfectly well at detecting CRT sets, its' the Plasma & LCD ones they have no chance of detecting. This is why when you buy a new (or second hand) set, the seller is legally required to inform TVL of your name and address. Of course, if you pay cash & provide a false name/address, then there is nothing TVL can do.

"Detector vans" DO work - if they exist ! In theory (in fact, in practice) it is perfectly feasible to determine, from a distance, exactly what frequency (channel) a television is tuned to by detecting the Intermediate Frequency it is using to extract the much lower frequency used to display the picture from the higher frequency used to transmit the picture. The type of display, CRT, LED, Plasma, etc is totally irrelevant.

However, this type of evidence is NOT admissable in a Court of Law, for a number of reasons. TV Licensing have admitted in Parliament that "detector van" evidence has NEVER been used in Court.