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Weight Loss the Old Style Way! Part 7. Please read posts 1 and 2 before posting.

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  • ragz_2
    ragz_2 Posts: 3,254 Forumite
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    Molly41 wrote: »
    Ragz - Im also sorry for your loss xx I did wonder if you were in the know about diet related stuff. What would you advise for someone like me who cant exercise due to health problems with a very slow metabolism? Ive gone from being underweight to just slightly over weight in 6 months (not helped by medicines that stimulate appetite). Im feeling really uncomfortable now :(:(:(

    I would advise specifically that you go to your GP and ask them, as your health IS their concern and that goes for weight too, no doctors want fat patients! I am not a qualified health professional (yet, maybe one day!) so can't be responsible for my advice, but I can give general tips that I think would be helpful.

    Much depends on what you mean by 'can't exercise', any physical activity that raises heart rate is exercise and those exercises that don't can still tone muscle (the more lean muscle you have the higher your Basal Metabolic Rate) which will still help weight loss.

    If you were previously underweight it is possible that this could have caused a slowing of your metabolism (for the same reason crash dieting makes you regain more weight when you stop, yoyo effect) but this can be changed. Eating little and often can help to increase your metabolic rate, as apparently can eating spicy foods, drinking green tea and many other foods according to some studies.
    Metabolism is controlled by thyroid function, you didn't mention if you have any thyroid problems but it may be worth checking.


    Ida Notion Congratulations on the trimmer tummy, I do so love your posts :rotfl:
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  • vixtress
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    :D evening all
    well done to the loosers and hugs to those who are struggling.
    ive had a pretty good day today but am very conscious that tomorrow is friday and that means the weekend :eek: i did ok last weekend as i didnt see much of OH, this weekend will be a bit trickier but not too bad, weve arranged to go to the cinema on saturday instead of out for a meal and i'm cooking tomorrow so that should help.

    went swimming but only managed 40 lengths, i think 3 nights on the trot was a bit much but 40's better than nothing. have stuck to the plan food wise. just need to plan for tomorrow night's dinner. have lots of salad and veg in but my mind has gone a bit blank :p

    have just got back from the pool and forced myself to make cous cous with roasted peppers, sweetcorn and feta to take for tomorrows lunch - go me! could very easily of just crawled into bed.

    better go as i am rambling and pretty pooped!

    night night x
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  • vixtress
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    i think tomorrow nights dinner has just been decided as my 'good ratatouille' as OH calls it, he thought ratatouille was the tinned tomatoes with not much else that his ex used to serve on its own when she was on a diet! he was suitably impressed that mine was rich and tasty (but still low fat and healthy) :D with stirfried pork. OH can have some oven chips
    night night :D
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  • Really want to join in with this...need to lose some weight to get in the ideal BMI range and have more of my clothes fit me! unfortunately just tried to weigh myself but batteries are dead on my scales! typical! once i have got a new one i will be back to join in properly!

    linzi
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  • Ida_Notion
    Ida_Notion Posts: 314 Forumite
    ragz wrote: »
    Ida Notion Congratulations on the trimmer tummy, I do so love your posts :rotfl:

    Aw, thanks, ragz :) I love your posts too - your nutritional advice is always so interesting. I knew (vaguely!) about BMR but couldn't google it because I'd forgotten what it was called, so I found that link very helpful as well. I also read the post where you explained what prompted your cider drinking binge. I don't think I responded to it because I felt there was nothing I could say that could come even close to being adequate, but I really did feel for you and so am sending a big ((((hug)))) instead.

    To barefootlinzi - I can't do the multi-quote thing but I've just read the post in which you state your intention to leave and return shortly. This is not possible, as any attempt to escape from this thread is futile. It's guarded at the door by a squad of crack nutritionists armed with loaded cucumbers, and a team of rottweillers who have been desperate for a taste of flesh ever since the day they were forced onto the cabbage soup diet. You're stuck here with the rest of us until we're slim enough to squeeze through the bars on the windows again. Welcome :)
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  • shala_moo
    shala_moo Posts: 3,272 Forumite
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    Thanks for the welcome :wave:

    Newlywed.. I think Slimming World is a really good diet in principle. I did really well a fair few years back (lost 3 stone) but i was struggling with extra easy and i always find when you try and go back to a diet plan then for some reason it just doesn't work - is it cos we know how to tweak it too much?? :o anyway good luck with it...

    For me wanting to eat healthier SW was allowing too many refined carbs and 1 oz of nuts is 8.5syns!!!!!!! :eek:

    Anyway i'll probably end up doing a mishmash of everything - i'm one of those people that can never decide what i want to do one week to the next lol!!

    Todays menu plan
    B - apple, yogurt, half a weetabix (just using these up and then i'll make granola)
    L - not sure.. danger time!
    T - pulled pork, wholemeal pitta, salad
    S - almonds, cranberries, satsuma

    Have a good day everyone - i'm still trying to catch up on the thread - its a big un! :rotfl:
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  • vixtress
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    morning :)
    very quick, am just on the way to a meeting.
    WI this morning and was 11st 6 1/2lb thats 3.25lb off. :):):)
    must be careful though, i did this at the beginning of may then put it back on + extra.
    think the swimming is making a difference. must keep it up.
    proper post later.
    vix x
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  • ragz_2
    ragz_2 Posts: 3,254 Forumite
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    edited 10 June 2011 at 10:14AM
    Thanks Ida Notion, I'm lucky enough to have 3 bouncy little monsters to keep me busy but I do have sad days sometimes. Glad the advice is welcome, I'm never quite sure!

    Well done Vixtress, great loss! Swimming is fab, wish I lived closer to a pool, it's over half an hour's drive for me and I'd have to go once kids are in bed :( (Ratatouille recipe please!)

    Just done a few sections of my Ministry Of Sound Pump It Up DVD, my God those girls are energetic! Two sections in and I was drenched in sweat, there's only so many deep lunges, jumping jacks and side squats a girl can do, surely!

    Welcome Barefoot Linzi, Ida's Right, you have to stay now! Don't worry about weighing yet you can still keep a food diary and post it up here and read the chat and tips :)

    Shala_moo Welcome to the thread.

    Slimming World must be brilliant, that's why everyone who's ever been to a class is now really slim :o
    Seriously though, this is about Weight Loss OLD STYLE, learning how to eat well for good to lose the weight and KEEP IT OFF. This means learning enough about food and nutrition to be able to make your own food choices without relying on a 'plan' to dictate your diet. It's easy to lose weight if someone tells you what to eat but like the saying goes... 'give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, teach him to fish and he'll eat for the rest of his life' (albeit a little sick of fish) Very few people can stay on the WW or SW plans for the rest of their lives! Then what happens when you fall off the plan? Go back to eating badly and put the weight back on again...
    A big problem with these plans is that the Points and Syns don't discriminate between high fat, high nutrient foods (like Shala_Moo mentioned nuts) and foods that have little nutritional value, so if you are always using your extras for cake and crisps you aren't really learning anything.

    Rant over, can you guess I'm not a fan of slimming clubs? I joined weight watchers a few years ago, lost 8lb, thought it was great then got pregnant and they wouldn't let me come... so I put on three stone! I didn't change what I was eating I just stopped counting points, I hadn't learnt anything apart from how many 'points' were in my favourite chocolate bars!

    Breakfast was toast made from my HM bread, (one third wholemeal) with Extra Fruit jam... mmm
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  • shala_moo
    shala_moo Posts: 3,272 Forumite
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    edited 24 July 2011 at 1:58PM
    ragz wrote: »
    Slimming World must be brilliant, that's why everyone who's ever been to a class is now really slim :o
    Seriously though, this is about Weight Loss OLD STYLE, learning how to eat well for good to lose the weight and KEEP IT OFF. This means learning enough about food and nutrition to be able to make your own food choices without relying on a 'plan' to dictate your diet. It's easy to lose weight if someone tells you what to eat but like the saying goes... 'give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, teach him to fish and he'll eat for the rest of his life' (albeit a little sick of fish) Very few people can stay on the WW or SW plans for the rest of their lives! Then what happens when you fall off the plan? Go back to eating badly and put the weight back on again...
    A big problem with these plans is that the Points and Syns don't discriminate between high fat, high nutrient foods (like Shala_Moo mentioned nuts) and foods that have little nutritional value, so if you are always using your extras for cake and crisps you aren't really learning anything.

    Rant over, can you guess I'm not a fan of slimming clubs? I joined weight watchers a few years ago, lost 8lb, thought it was great then got pregnant and they wouldn't let me come... so I put on three stone! I didn't change what I was eating I just stopped counting points, I hadn't learnt anything apart from how many 'points' were in my favourite chocolate bars!

    Thanks for the welcome

    I do agree slightly with this which is why i've stopped SW.. but i do think for some people it teaches them a healthier way of eating (it if cuts down the takeaways) and gives them motivation to change a few things in their diets, and thats always got to be a better thing than to carry on the way they were going. As with every eating plan, if you follow it, it works, it's when you stop that it doesn't!

    My OH is still going to class each week, he doesn't really follow the plan and has always just eaten a bit healthier, but for him he needs the motivation of going to get weighed, it "forces" him to keep eating healthy each week, which I can completely understand.

    Right i'll jump off me soap box (does this count as exercise?:rotfl:) and get on with trying to figure out what i fancy for lunch...
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  • lovetopaint
    lovetopaint Posts: 176 Forumite
    Well how odd, the scales read 10 st 7lb today??? :j
    Hope my scales not messing me about. However I am going with that!

    Sams247, none of my business and you may have acted already, but jump onto the bullying issue super quick. I had a similar experience with DD a while back. My big mistake was not dealing with it quickly enough (beacause she begged me not to), and she suffered more as a result. Good luck with it :)
    Healthy eating aim per day: 3 fruits, 3 or more vegetables, 3 low-fat dairy portions, 3 starch portions, 2-3 lean protein portions.
    Weekly aim: to include 2 portions of fish (one oily), some nuts, seeds, beans and pulses.
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