section 59 - outrageous highway robbery?

k18dan

anewman wrote: »

I would hope the officer dealing with it would be intelligent/sensible enough to expect video recorded evidence clearly identifying the offender/car, or wait until they see the offence occuring themselves.
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Yes.. and that is what bothers me.. we would hope

mchale

Inactive wrote: »

I disagree, these idiots get all they deserve.

Sounds like your a copper

matt1987

This is one of the best powers we have, although I have not had to use it yet!!

Your son was obviously doing something wrong otherwise it would not have happened.

If I was walking down the street, and saw a young lad in his " suped " up vehicle, revving the engine like crazy and playing loud music then yes, I would issue a sec.59 warning. However for not indicating at a roundabout then no, I would not issue a s.59 warning. I am afraid your sons friend may be telling fibs too.

Also, we dont issue a sec.59 to someone just because the public have complained. There have been a few times when I have been called to moped troubles and I find a stern word in their ear is sufficient.

Inactive

mchale wrote: »

Sounds like your a copper

Wrong, I'm afraid.:)

cajef

maninthestreet wrote: »

I totally agree. Anther example of police abusing the powers they have been given. This needs challenging in the courts.

Several years ago the seventeen year old son of a person I knew in the country village where I then lived used to drive though like a mad man and go round a corner at a road junction nearly on two wheels people could hear him coming, one of the comments made in the village pub was one day he will kill himself.

I had the unfortunate job one morning of attending an RTA and finding it was his car, then helping to pull his best mates dead body and him barely alive from the wreckage when on his way to school he lost it at speed on a bad bend and ended up embedded in a wall, he lived for another twelve hours.

I few months later I was talking to his father in the pub and he actually said 'I still cannot understand how it could have happened he was such a good and careful driver', I thought if only you knew.

As far as I am concerned anything that may help to stop these idiots is a good thing, it is the heartache and damaged they cause to other peoples lives by their reckless behaviour.

matt1987

skintbuthappy81 wrote: »

Sorry to be pedantic but females are officers too, including me

Yep you're right but it's a section 27 you are thinking of and can't return for upto 48 hours.

Well challenged lol

k18dan

Inactive wrote: »

Unfortunately it is the " boy racers " that are no doubt in question here.
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Are we?... do you know the OP's Son??... he was caught speeding.. plenty of older people speed too and get caught

You are placing a name tag on a Individual of which you do not no... which I see as bad as racism and ageism..

rev_henry

matt1987 wrote: »

This is one of the best powers we have, although I have not had to use it yet!!

Your son was obviously doing something wrong otherwise it would not have happened.

If I was walking down the street, and saw a young lad in his " suped " up vehicle, revving the engine like crazy and playing loud music then yes, I would issue a sec.59 warning. However for not indicating at a roundabout then no, I would not issue a s.59 warning. I am afraid your sons friend may be telling fibs too.

Also, we dont issue a sec.59 to someone just because the public have complained. There have been a few times when I have been called to moped troubles and I find a stern word in their ear is sufficient.

Thought you were a PCSO? Or can you give them out as well?

Inactive

k18dan wrote: »

Are we?... do you know the OP's Son??... he was caught speeding.. plenty of older people speed too and get caught

They do, but I suspect that the overwhelming majority that get dealt with in this way are around the 17/25 mark, hence " boy racers ".

Mature people generally do not drive around the streets in tarted up junk in a moronic fashion.

liam8282

So basically S59 it is a fast track method used by the police for motoring offences that would normally be dealt with under the road traffic act, driving without consideration, without due care and attention etc....

It does seem a bit unfair that the penalties are not the same, but if they are causing enough nuisance that somebody has had to report them, then maybe they deserve the harsher penalties?

If the people driving the cars aren't doing anything wrong in the first place, then surely there are no grounds to stop them?

& as for not indicating at a roundabout, I would expect any traffic police officer to pull any driver over for that.