University degree not worth as much as touted

Asheron

Most people these days have Micky Mouse Degree's like Child Care or Under water basket weaving OR Magic

carolt

Really2 wrote: »

These are different senarios one is getting a job in there chosen field.



Carol you said he trained in a profession and the work had gone.
You are then saying your MIL got a job in what she trained in.

You fail to see if the job was no there she would not have it just like your cousin.

The issue is not the work experience but if you have a degree relating to a specific job and the job is not there you like your cousin would not get a job that commanded the same wage.

Would your mil get a job as financial director with her degree? or even a trainee?
A degree is not an open to all management job in all sectors no matter how you would like to think it is.

My MIL didn't 'train' in anything. She did a degree and phd in biochemistry. She works in management. If she lost that job she could get another job in management. She does actually work in financial management, so the answer to your question is a definite 'yes'.

If 'A degree is not an open to all management job in all sectors' then please tell me what all the 'Graduates' sections in the newspapers are there for? Have you simply never heard of the milkround'? Have you never heard of a graduate training scheme? Virtually every profession has these...

lostinrates

Asheron wrote: »

The only Degree worth having is agriculture (farming)

Because when this Depression really gets going we will all be going back to the land, so you better sell your Audi or BMW, and buy a Tractor[EMAIL="sweetgirl102ca@hotmail.com"]
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Why is a degree rather than experience in agriculture worth having?

carolt

chucky wrote: »

what world do you live in that you see people in the street and you can classify them as a bull or a bear apart from this forum and be able to tell if they had a degree or not??

you went to Oxford got a good degree in history and are a part time teacher... i'd be expecting a bit more from my professional career if i had gone to oxford studied history for 4 years and had only become a part time teacher.

you might as well have gone to Slough Poly because you could have ended up in the same job... what a waste...

Wrong.

1. I went for 3 years - you really don't know much if you think degees take 4 years!

2. What I learned was how to study, I tested my limits intellectually, expanded my mind, learned what I couldn't do as well as what I could. Learned social skills, learned about living away from home, mixing in a different environment...hundreds of 'soft', unquantifiable skills that you couldn't put a price on. (Not to mention more about a subject I love...) None of that makes me a penny richer in financial terms, so if you're someone who can see the price of everything and the value of nothing, you'd be damn right.

3. I'm a woman with 3 children. I made the decision - right for me; others I know will make different decisions in that situation that are right for them - to spend the years my children were young with them, not to go back to work full-time and have the biggest !!!!-off telly you've ever seen, but no time with the ones I love.

Clearly, you would have made a different decision to me, had you been in my shoes.

Your values are clearly very different to mine.

To you, it's a 'waste' indeed. To me, it's a blessing.

Each to their own.

chucky

carolt wrote: »

1. I went for 3 years - you really don't know much if you think degees take 4 years!

3 years or 4 years, it doesn't matter you might as well have gone to Slough Poly as you would be in the same position as now :T

which backs up the point that Asheron is making

Cleaver

ILW wrote: »

What if someone had all the above qualities in abundance, but no degree, would you employ them?

Very possibly. Depends on the role and the person.

In all honesty though it's a bit of a redundant question, as pretty much everyone who applies for a job with us seem to have degrees (bar some the admin staff, but a degree is quite common there nowadays too).

Cleaver

Asheron wrote: »

Most people these days have Micky Mouse Degree's like Child Care or Under water basket weaving OR Magic

One of my favourite posts ever. I love you Asheron.

carolt

chucky wrote: »

3 years or 4 years, it doesn't matter you might as well have gone to Slough Poly as you would be in the same position as now :T

If you don't understand after reading my post, you never will.

Yes, you're right. Had I gone to Slough Poly my bank balance might be identical.

As that's clearly your only way of defining anything, then by your terms, both types of education are absolutely identical.



And no-one could ever guess you'd never been to university.


Hmm.

carolt

Just 1 point, chucky.

Let us never, ever meet.

I can't imagine anyone I could possibly have less in common with.

chucky

carolt wrote: »

Just 1 point, chucky.

Let us never, ever meet.

I can't imagine anyone I could possibly have less in common with.

lol easy there woman - your blood pressure must be taking quite a battering at the moment :j