cost of tiling

across

what about £35 per sqmt? is that reasonable?

v0n

davsidipp wrote:

no i would not . for a plummer corgi reg and spark part p reg as well as being time served skilled i feel justified paying 200 per day.

Fair enough. However, you pay £200 to a sparkie or plumber for just their time. Example tiling quote includes materials and tiles, and as I said, I would imagine tiler wouldn't make more than £120 pre tax profit out of that.

At the end of the day, the thread is about cost of tiling in real life, not how much tiling should cost in our opinion and I still think £200 - 250 mark is not far off from what most of the professional, tax paying tilers (ie. not the "men from pub in dirty overalls") will quote for a small, but time consuming solo job.

v0n

across wrote:

what about £35 per sqmt? is that reasonable?

6 sqm was it? If the quote includes adhesive, branded grout and good tiles (as in - something that actually costs £16+ and not the cheapest Wickies white no thrills tiles) IMHO it's within reason.

Alan_M_2

I think you may have misinterpreted the £80sq/m at the beginning of this post...it was an indication of cost to supply and fit as I read it......that's all tiles adhesives, grout and labour...when looking at it from that perspective it's cheap.

I'm a stone wholesaler (I was a tiling contractore before I moved into wholesaling), we charge £50 sq/m for fitting straightforward flooring without any preparation, this is labour and materials but excludes the cost of the stone/marble. If there's a detailed bathroom to fit then this figure could easily rise to £80 sq/m. At these prices we have no problem generating work. But then we specialise in Limestone and Marble.

To get any sort of quality I need to pay fitters between £200 - £250 a day (on a subcontract basis) and I'm in the trade. If I was to fully employ a good fitter I'd have to pay them at leats £35K a year Plus vehicle plus holiday plus sick pay. I'm based in Surrey.

Do the maths, you'll easily see how quickly you arrive at £200 a day when operating costs are taken into consideration.

I'm not going to get embroiled in another conversation about immigrant labour, there are reasons why they can charge so little which have less to do with our ecenonmy and more to do with government decisions about immigrant employment controls and the fact they can earn pretty much tax free then take all the money from the UK quite legally....

god_dam_supermatt

last tileing job i got done was a 10sq/m bathroom charged at £20a sq/m this took the guy 1 day to do and he did an exelent job. that was excluding materials. I dont see why anyone should except a quote that is including materials as if they are going to supplie them they can charge for their labour and then give you a recipt for the materials used for reemburstment. And the original post was just for labour as she was providing the materials and teas !!!

across

v0n wrote:

6 sqm was it? If the quote includes adhesive, branded grout and good tiles (as in - something that actually costs £16+ and not the cheapest Wickies white no thrills tiles) IMHO it's within reason.

i have to buy my own tiles on top!!! which makes it about double that amount is this too expensive?

Alan_M_2

god_dam_supermatt wrote:

last tileing job i got done was a 10sq/m bathroom charged at £20a sq/m this took the guy 1 day to do and he did an exelent job. that was excluding materials. I dont see why anyone should except a quote that is including materials as if they are going to supplie them they can charge for their labour and then give you a recipt for the materials used for reemburstment. And the original post was just for labour as she was providing the materials and teas !!!

We include materials with our quotes for the following reasons:-

1/ The materials we use are not freely available to the general public for sensible money, therefore the general public will buy cheaper materials that are not suitable for the fit.

2/ The variety of products available is beyond most DIYer's comprehension, i.e. they really don't know for certain if they're buying the right product or not.

3/ You automatically assume that by having materials supplied that you are being ripped off in some way, where in most cases I can sell products to my customers cheaper than they can buy them elsewhere simply due to buying power, of course I make a profit in this sale, that profit cover the costs of me buying in bulk, having a warehouse in which to store it and actually handling the product.

4/ I have to say though, due to the nature of my particular business none of my customers want the hassle of having to buy any materials themselves and infact on sale only jobs we#ll often supply materials with the stone/marble at the request of the customer, yet, we're not a materials wholesaler.

Generally in any trade or related construction work, the cheapest available guy is often cheap for a reason, He doesn't know what He's doing (therefore misquotes) or He's not equipped to do the job in hand and is winging it.

ragjoy

Lady_K wrote:

I had a quote for tiling 48 tiles, 4 rows of 12 tiles 6inch square with no cutting at all needed. They said it would take a day and it was £100 they were getting the white grout and adhesive I was getting the tiles. I thought it was extortionate price and will do it myself. Thats not a days work noit even half a day it will take about an hour if that. I think he was just trying to take me for a mug as I'm a woman on my own

that price is very reasonable.
the minimum i charge as a domestic only tiler nowadays is £120 and that would be for a very easy day.
your job will only take an hour or so but you have to get there and go home,chances are you will not have another half day job to book around it to make a full day.
i would also have to come back to grout the tiles or use a rapid set powder adhesive.
and you will still have to wait an hour for it to set.
so half a day will be gone hence the hundred pound you were charged.
its not the tilers fault its a easy job.

ragjoy

MrsMondragon wrote:

I would have to provide all the tiles and materials, they would charge twenty five pounds a sq metre just for putting them up.

£140 with materials would be very reasonable.
your 2.5 mts is probably 100x100cm tiles that would mean 250 tiles.
you will rarely get a tiler quoting normal mt rates for jobs like that.
ther are always loads of plug sockets to cut round so that slows things down.
its an easy days work,but you must remember you are getting this done by someone who does it every day.
so it will look good at the end of the day,he will use the right products.
but he wants reasonabe pay and for a tiler £140 with glue is not a great pay day.
its a price that as cheap as you can work for.
he would sooner be doing a nice conservatory at £20 per mt.
its not greed its the rate going rate.

Tom_Jones

Well just to prove builders get caught out as well, I've just installed a new kitchen in our house, and being as the regular tiler I use is on hols decided to use another highly recommended guy, who's made a complete mess of the job, needless to say he isn't getting paid as replacement tiles will be another £400.