The giving up/cutting down alcohol thread part VI

fruitycar

Go 72'ers

castri09_2

MountainOfDebt wrote: »

I muist admit, me and the wife, I believe, have drink problems. My issues are I can go weeks without having a drink, then the wheels come off spectacularly for 3 odd days, then I am off again for 4 days, maybe a week, maybe a month, but then the cycle happens again. I go through the phases of nice mellow (2 drinks), pleasant company (2 - 6/7 drink) to total tosspot (7+) drinks. I am mean, aggressive and not a nice person to be around. Nxt day, short tempered and unapproachable. I kleep telling the wife I should stop, that it's not good for me, but she doesn't think I am, she just says we can carry on, maybe we should manage it better, then it happens all over again. She equates fun to drinking and I have told her whilst she believes this, we'll always have issues with drink. We have no hobbies (I used to, but gave up cricket when the kids were born) so, I guess, we're bored.

Thanks for letting me open up, I have not had this chance, well, not had a captive audience before that actually listens

I am trying to be AF until April 7th and then in moderation from then on. If I can't do that, I think it's time to simply walk away from it, if I can.

for me drinking came a big part of me when my mum and dad marriage fell apart my sis went to live abroad and other stuff happened i felt drinking took me away from everything to my little world.i havent had a drink for 25 days now i just felt one day this is silly why am i doing this i am not a good role model to my children.there is so much help on here. for me i am trying to give up drink for good (hopeing i can do it) cutting down doesnt work for me i always went back to drinking all the time.since i havent had a drink ive gone back to the gym and having a good look at my life and changing thing for the better.
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hope everything works out for you there is always someone on here if you need to talk

fruitycar

oops, I see my last post follllowed one about funerals and blood tests, sorry. got a bit carried away there.
I tried to make the picture smaller .

Miss_Piggy_2

fruitycar wrote: »

oops, I see my last post follllowed one about funerals and blood tests, sorry. got a bit carried away there.
I tried to make the picture smaller .

Don't worry about it...I quite like the picture...this is what I imagine my shadow looks like!!!:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Miss P
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115K

fruitycar wrote: »

oops, I see my last post follllowed one about funerals and blood tests, sorry. got a bit carried away there.
I tried to make the picture smaller .

No offence taken.:D:)

Pippilongstocking

Fingers crossed 115k

RecoveringAlcoholic

i am trying to give up drink for good

Remembering that alcoholism is an incurable,

progressive, fatal disease.

Living Sober Chapter #4.


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MountainOfDebt_2

RecoveringAlcoholic wrote: »

Remembering that alcoholism is an incurable,

progressive, fatal disease.

Living Sober Chapter #4.


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Sorry, but I thougth I'd ask about this. I guess this is parrt of dealing with this as an illness. But is it really incurable? Isn't that a really, really bleak way of having to deal with it? Sorry if I am being too 'pink and fluffy' about it, I know it's a bad thing to deal with, but is that the eway it's treated?

Lurkio

MountainOfDebt wrote: »

Sorry, but I thougth I'd ask about this. I guess this is parrt of dealing with this as an illness. But is it really incurable? Isn't that a really, really bleak way of having to deal with it? Sorry if I am being too 'pink and fluffy' about it, I know it's a bad thing to deal with, but is that the eway it's treated?

That's kinda what I have been meaning to ask... you can be an ex-smoker (or even considered a non-smoker), but never an ex-drinker. Always 'recovering', never 'recovered'. Why is it considered so?

Thanks for bringing it up, MoD..... :T

graemecarter

Lurkio wrote: »

That's kinda what I have been meaning to ask... you can be an ex-smoker (or even considered a non-smoker), but never an ex-drinker. Always 'recovering', never 'recovered'. Why is it considered so?

Thanks for bringing it up, MoD..... :T

CAVEAT - THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVE. IT APPLIES TO NO-ONE IN PARTICULAR APART FROM MYSELF. I COULD BE WRONG ON ALL OF THIS

I am an ex-drinker in as much as I no longer drink. I am alcoholic though, and will always be alcoholic if I drink or not.
If you are alcoholic, you cross a line and there is no return to 'normal' drinking. That line could have been crossed recently, or (like me) when I first drank as a teenager.

Defining what is an alcoholic is a tougher proposition, as it is more than just units drunk. However, I know I am one.

Because alcoholism is a thinking illness (it is our thinking that makes us drink when we know how bad the consequences could be), I don't think the thinking can ever be fully 'cured' to the degree you do not have alcoholism.

I have alcoholism, but I don't have many of the problems associated with it - I no longer drink (for today), I don't get too resentful, I don't keep as many secrets, I don't stay out to 5am, I don't have hangovers, I don't wet the bed, I don't throw up, I don't argue with loved ones when drunk, I can always drive, etc
However, I do suffer from fear and anxiety, procrastination, and can hide my feelings.
I work on reducing these things so I am 'recovering'

If I am 'recovered' it means I do not have a problem with alcohol, and that means I can drink safely in moderation. There is NO chance of that happening to me. Thus I will never be recovered

I believe alcoholism is an illness (which manifests itself in 'thinking, feelings, and drinking). Because I accept I have it and work hard NOT to have many of the negative symptoms associated with it, it means that it may not take a day off my life. However, I know that I am only sober today - I don't know what tomorrow may bring.

What I do believe is that untreated alcoholism will either kill, take years off life expectancy, and cause misery for self and family/friends.
That's why I get help for it - it helps me be happy and healthy, and the gift is that I no longer want a drink. It upsets me reading about people who want a drink but deny themselves it - that must be a rather hard existence. I changed my life so I don't want a drink. Thus no cravings (for today and today alone)