Has the locksmith fitted our lock wrong?!

Alan_M_2

IMO there's no problem with those, I thought you were suggesting it was protruding an inch or so....

Minerva69

Alan_M wrote: »

IMO there's no problem with those, I thought you were suggesting it was protruding an inch or so....

Thanks Alan, I mentioned in my first post it's protruding about 8mm, I measured it to check!

Locknut

Minerva69 wrote: »

Please would you mind having a look at the photos I posted and let me know if you think the lock still needs replacing? As I mentioned, we haven't actually paid yet so if it does need doing I can get them to come back before we pay. When he installed it the man did point out it was sticking out but he said it wouldn't be a problem.

Hi Minerva69

Sorry only just had chance to log in. Although the ABS cylinder has great anti snap qualitys it still needs to be fitted correctley to avoid giving the oppertunist an excuse to have a go. Personally I would ask for the correct cylinder to be fitted.

Alan_M_2

Jplocksmiths wrote: »

Hi Minerva69

Sorry only just had chance to log in. Although the ABS cylinder has great anti snap qualitys it still needs to be fitted correctley to avoid giving the oppertunist an excuse to have a go. Personally I would ask for the correct cylinder to be fitted.

Genuine question:-

In your professional opinion what is wrong with the way the lock is fitted now?

I don't fully understand how the small protrusion would greatly effect the security, would you mind explaining please.

Locknut

Search you tube for lock snapping and its not hard to see why this is now one of the fravorite ways that burglers gain enrty to your home.

keystone

Jplocksmiths wrote: »

...............Although the ABS cylinder has great anti snap qualitys it still needs to be fitted correctley to avoid giving the oppertunist an excuse to have a go..

Sorry if I'm being thick but I find this confusing. Surely the point of the lock concerned is that its designed to snap in a controlled way (and thus fail safe) rather than be designed to resist snapping which is what you imply.

Jplocksmiths wrote: »

Search you tube for lock snapping and its not hard to see why this is now one of the fravorite ways that burglers gain enrty to your home.

Isn't that why the snapsafe lock was designed and brought onto the market?

Thanks your help.

Cheers

Alan_M_2

Jplocksmiths wrote: »

Search you tube for lock snapping and its not hard to see why this is now one of the fravorite ways that burglers gain enrty to your home.

Well thanks for that detailed and extensive reply.

I did take time to look on youtube and discovered video after video of flush mounted euro cylinders being ripped out of doors with Mole grips and claw hammers.

So I guess I'll ask again, what difference does it make that the OP's lock protrudes 8mm when it appears with a little brute force any Euro Cylinder can simply be ripped out with basic plumbing tools?

Mankysteve

dacouch wrote: »

If the barrel is not flush on the outside a smack with a small sledge hammer will break the barrel in two and the door car be opened

Nothing stopping someone from getting a bar of steel the same size of lock and smashing with a sledge hammer so regardless of whether the lock sticks out slightly or not. Also worth noting that if someone taking a sledge hammer to you front door the lock is the last of your worries it'll just go straight though most doors.:D

NormaSnockers

At least if there is sign of forced entry your insurance (if you have some) will cover.

Along with the correct size, don't forget to ask for anti-bump locks - lots of info online eg dcrtotalsecurity.co.uk/Lockbumping.html

No sign of forced entry, no insurance payout. I chose CISA Astral locks which have a different key design to 'standard' Yale type. (I didn't fancy the 'pickbuster' which seems to be a gel inject that helps stop the bump).

dacouch

NormaSnockers wrote: »

At least if there is sign of forced entry your insurance (if you have some) will cover.

Along with the correct size, don't forget to ask for anti-bump locks - lots of info online eg dcrtotalsecurity.co.uk/Lockbumping.html

No sign of forced entry, no insurance payout. I chose CISA Astral locks which have a different key design to 'standard' Yale type. (I didn't fancy the 'pickbuster' which seems to be a gel inject that helps stop the bump).

There don't need to be signs of entry for your Insurance to pay out unless they put a requirement on your Insurance that there have to be signs of a forced entry. You tend to get this on a few cheap home policies or some home policies with a security discount / warranty or on commercial insurance policies.

Antibump locks are a good idea though