POINTS & FINE for Mobile Phone use whilst driving

Antispam

Which is what I a basically said but less blunt in post #32

What the Op says doesn't make sense to me I think there is more to this then perhaps they are letting on. Again why would police pull them up even if it was for say back light out, would they really notice a mobile between your legs? As I said even if not guilty of using it when driving why would anyone drive with mobile between there legs? sounds odd to me

kns wrote: »

As a police officer I think the op is telling porkies.
To be pulled over you must of been seen by the officers using your phone or commited a moving traffic offence.
Once pulled over why did you not remove your phone from between your legs before the officers got to your vehicle.
I think you where driving along on your phone then when you spotted the police you done the automatic reaction and dropped it between your legs.
As two officers seen you using your phone then you have no chance if you take it to court or are you saying these officers are not honest.
If you were not on your phone then take it to court, otherwise admit it you were caught so pay up and except the points.
So many people still use their phones whilts in control of their vehicles, this should be atleast six points on your licence.
Then also you get the usaul when people are stopped.Have you not got anything better to do like catch real criminals ? (well yes if i did not have to stop people like you then i could catch real criminals)
You have been seen breaking the law so just pay and learn by your mistake.

I have no sympathy with anyone using there phone when driving, if it had my way they be banned as not only do they endanger themselves up others too. Good to hear Police are pro active hope others learn and pull over when they get a call

peachyprice

Tozer wrote: »

Maybe there is more to this. However, on the facts given by the OP there has been no offence.

In which case the OP should have protested his innocence at the time :rolleyes:

Tozer

peachyprice wrote: »

In which case the OP should have protested his innocence at the time :rolleyes:

Not necessarily. OP is entitled to obtain legal advice and plead not guilty rather than paying the fixed penalty notice.

hippey

But whatever you do make sure you do it soon, you only have 28 days to request a court appearance leave it longer and you will end up with more problems.

Proof of using / not using the phone is difficult and there are few defences to this offence. Personally I would never use a phone while driving even handsfree!

peachyprice

Tozer wrote: »

Not necessarily. OP is entitled to obtain legal advice and plead not guilty rather than paying the fixed penalty notice.

Now you're just being pedantic!!!

You're telling me, if you'd been stopped at the roadside and accused of an offence, you wouldn't do everything posible, there and then to prove your innocence, before accepting the ticket?

RobertoMoir

peachyprice wrote: »

Now you're just being pedantic!!!

You're telling me, if you'd been stopped at the roadside and accused of an offence, you wouldn't do everything posible, there and then to prove your innocence, before accepting the ticket?

If the police are clearly not interested in listening to explanations then I think saving your breath and dealing with it formally is a perfectly acceptable response myself.

MORPH3US

kns wrote: »

Then also you get the usaul when people are stopped.Have you not got anything better to do like catch real criminals ?

Yep, made me laugh in the OP when he said "the police officers were quite arrogant".... every post on here about someone getting stopped for speeding / using mobile phone / not having tax or insurance always mentions how arrogant the police are.....

Its always someone else's fault. I pulled a woman up for parking in a disabled bay in work last week and she had a right face on when I asked her politely to move her car... she moved it then came back chuntering how she had to park there because everyone else parks so badly... anyway I digress.

Also, as great news as it is, the fact that the OP's wife has just had a baby is completely irrelevant and seems to me to be an excuse... however this excuse doesn't require anyone to keep their phone between their legs...

I agree that the police wouldn't just stop you for nothing...

IMHO using a mobile phone at the wheel is 10 times worse than going 3mph over the speed limit yet they come with the same fine?!?!?!?! :mad: Not saying I agree with speeding but within reason, that alone does not necessarily cause accidents whereas looking at your phone screen to text definitely bloody can.

pitkin2020

peachyprice wrote: »

Now you're just being pedantic!!!

You're telling me, if you'd been stopped at the roadside and accused of an offence, you wouldn't do everything posible, there and then to prove your innocence, before accepting the ticket?

I don't think you have the option not to accept a roadside ticket if the officers believe you are guilty. That's what the appeal process is for. You can state your innocence all you want but if they are going to issue a ticket they will do so anyway and you then have to go to court to appeal it or pay up.

Like already said there isn't much defence for using a mobile whilst driving, even showing call/text logs may not get you off as you could have been reading a text, typing a text, about to make a call, scrolling though contact list or even playing snake at the time. It will come down to 2 officers word against yours.

Norant

MORPH3US wrote: »

IMHO using a mobile phone at the wheel is 10 times worse than going 3mph over the speed limit yet they come with the same fine?!?!?!?! :mad: Not saying I agree with speeding but within reason, that alone does not necessarily cause accidents whereas looking at your phone screen to text definitely bloody can.

I agree totally.


I dont not want to keep banging on about my brothers accident because that is almost two years ago,however when it happened we were appointed with a Family liason officer and after a few days when we started talking about things in general and not my brother all the time,he told me that people seem to think that driving dangerously is somehow accepted as the norm,eg Undertaking,speeding,driving whislt distracted.

(I have to add that out FLO was and still is a first class traffic officer)

He also told me about the amount of different excuses that he hears from people who drive like idiots and think they have the perfect right to circumvent the law by trying to pass off there actions with some ridiculous excuse.

The FLO gave me his personall number and assured me that i could call him anytime i wished,even if he was off duty and it was 2.00am,these traffic officers are by no means stupid people,sure they make mistakes! but not as often as the idiots who think they can get away with anything then try to argue there cases with pathetic excuses.

(This post is an opinion and not aimed at the OP)

hippey

You do have the right in law to refuse the fixed penalty notice at the roadside, you would just be processed for the relevant offence and then go to court.

It maybe that you have a defence in law and this may be accepted by the court, the fixed penalty notice system is mearly there to stop the courts clogging up with minor traffic matters.