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Indie_Kid

krisskross wrote: »

I don't believe wheat intolerance is due to Coeliac disease. It has an unknown cause and it is estimated to affect about 15% of the population. So a huge number, over 10 million

They are two separate conditions. People who are wheat intolerant aren't allowed to wheat, and people who have coelics aren't allowed wheat or gluten.

Indie_Kid

SingleSue wrote: »

Then we could only get bread on prescription but as they hate it so much rarely get it filled. So now, I purchase the gluten free flour etc to make our own, use alternatives for cakes etc (they also have intolerances to milk and soya) and will buy the special biscuits (my attempts were pretty errr....eek ) and spaghetti/pasta.

I will eat the bread. Or would do if it didn't fall apart so easily.:rolleyes: I tend to eat rye bread. I did used to eat oat bread; btut hat gave me chronic indigestion.

In fact, there is a shortfall that has to be made up from the normal money.

I've found this too.

krisskross

mellc wrote: »

When i was nursing i looked after many people with coeliac disease and it is an extremly dibilitating disease. and you are totally wrong!
In coeliac disease, gluten causes the immune system to produce antibodies that attack the delicate lining of the bowel, which is responsible for absorbing nutrients and vitamins from food.
If left untreated, coeliac disease can lead to anaemia bone disease and, rarely, some forms of cancer.
Avoiding all food that contains gluten usually results in the improvement, or even disappearance, of damage to the bowel lining. However, the damage will start again if gluten is re-introduced into the diet.
so please get your facts straight!
although what the hell this has to do with WFP i haven't the slightest idea people come on here for a listening ear and hopefully some helpful advice not justify their disability to a stranger. this thread is getting far to personal now and in my view has totally gone off topic.

People with wheat intolerance do not necessarily have gluten intolerance or coeliac disease. So perhaps it is you who should be certain of your facts before posting nonsense and scaring people.

krisskross

summerof0763 wrote: »

how would you "define" disability??? be very interested to know as you obviously look down on all of us "disabled" for a variety of reasons best known to yourself

I do not look down on anyone but I do think many people are happy to describe themselves as 'disabled' for fairly minor things. and for correctable things. The actual meaning of the word is demeaned by being used to describe people with fairly minor issues. I know someone who has eaten herself to such obesity she needs an electric scooter thing to get about in. She considers herself 'disabled' when all she needs is to lose a fair amount of stoneage.

We are all 'disabled' in some way. Very few of us are perfect specimens. I have extremely poor sight and also have dreadful panic attacks and claustrophobia when stressed. But disabled? Certainly not. My problems can be managed with medication and counselling.

What do you consider disabled then? Do you distinguish between temporary disabled i.e in a wheelchair because of a broken leg? Or someone with a permanent physical condition like no legs or blindness etc?

Indie_Kid

krisskross wrote: »

I do not look down on anyone but I do think many people are happy to describe themselves as 'disabled' for fairly minor things. and for correctable things.

IBS isn't minor and mine isn't correctable. None of the medication works. (bring intolerant to one didn't help:rolleyes:)

krisskross

sh1305 wrote: »

IBS isn't minor and mine isn't correctable. None of the medication works. (bring intolerant to one didn't help:rolleyes:)

I read that 1 in 5 people will suffer IBS. Now there will be varying degrees of effect but it is obviously extremely common. Surely not everyone who has it considers themselves disabled?

summerof0763

krisskross wrote: »

I do not look down on anyone but I do think many people are happy to describe themselves as 'disabled' for fairly minor things. and for correctable things. The actual meaning of the word is demeaned by being used to describe people with fairly minor issues. I know someone who has eaten herself to such obesity she needs an electric scooter thing to get about in. She considers herself 'disabled' when all she needs is to lose a fair amount of stoneage.

We are all 'disabled' in some way. Very few of us are perfect specimens. I have extremely poor sight and also have dreadful panic attacks and claustrophobia when stressed. But disabled? Certainly not. My problems can be managed with medication and counselling.

What do you consider disabled then? Do you distinguish between temporary disabled i.e in a wheelchair because of a broken leg? Or someone with a permanent physical condition like no legs or blindness etc?

a disability does not have to be something you see.
as a matter of interest i am profoundly deaf,have severe sciatica pain,riddled with athiritis,diverticultivus disease and severe ibs and yes it causes a lot of problems which disable me from living my life in a way that i would like!!

jazabelle

krisskross wrote: »

I read that 1 in 5 people will suffer IBS. Now there will be varying degrees of effect but it is obviously extremely common. Surely not everyone who has it considers themselves disabled?

I think you answered your own question - there are varying degrees. Some may see it as merely annoying, others may have it so severely that it majorly affects their life. You have not been in sh1305's shoes, and have no idea how much it affects her - so who are you to judge?

summerof0763

jazabelle wrote: »

I think you answered your own question - there are varying degrees. Some may see it as merely annoying, others may have it so severely that it majorly affects their life. You have not been in sh1305's shoes, and have no idea how much it affects her - so who are you to judge?

my point exactly kriss kross obviously has no idea how disabling some illnesses can be and is certainly not a"sympathetic" person really do not know why she insists on winding people up find it very distubing that she feels the need to even comment on this board. at end of day this is disability and dosh!!

krisskross

summerof0763 wrote: »

a disability does not have to be something you see.
as a matter of interest i am profoundly deaf,have severe sciatica pain,riddled with athiritis,diverticultivus disease and severe ibs and yes it causes a lot of problems which disable me from living my life in a way that i would like!!

My husband also is profoundly deaf. He suffers really badly with uncontrolled rheumatoid arthritis. He has lung damage from working with dust and chemicals. He also has diabetes controlled with insulin. Cataracts on both eyes.

He doesn't consider himself 'disabled' though. Apparently that is for people worse than him. Yes we modify our life to take his problems into account but the only thing we have not been able to do is take a holiday to America and that is only because the insurance cost is prohibitive.

And I will post where I like. You can always put me on 'ignore' if my comments upset you that much.