Degree Help

bristol_pilot

vaporate wrote: »

I hardly see a 2:2 as something to lose sleep over. Unless you wanted to apply for a certain graduate scheme which required a 2:1?

Just be glad it wasn't a 3rd or pass degree.

I see it as:
3rd: poor, 2:2 average, 2:1 above average, 1st class: Excellent.

That's how it was 20 years ago (when I did my degree) - only the top 1-2% got firsts (often, no-one got a first), 2:1 was above average, 2:2 was mainstream and would get you a job IF it was in a suitable subject from a good Uni. It was still possible to get onto a grad scheme with a third or a pass degree, if you had something else to offer.

There has been a good deal of grade inflation since then and most people seem to get a 2:1 or a first. Thus getting a 2:2, especially in a subject perceived to be 'easy' from a 'new University' is not very employable. My Company for example requires a 2:2 for its grad training scheme in technical subjects like engineering/computing and a 2:1 for business subjects. Most employers demand a 2:1 full stop. 5 years ago this was not so much of a problem as there was basically full employment in the UK and employers who don't pay particularly well like the NHS and other public sector were not able to chase after all the best qualified people. Now, sadly, all employers can pick and choose. I'd say that the way forward for the OP may well to be to do a masters - but a carefully chosen one. Hopefully unemployment might have started to fall a bit by the tme he has finished it.

System

vaporate wrote: »

I hardly see a 2:2 as something to lose sleep over. Unless you wanted to apply for a certain graduate scheme which required a 2:1?

Just be glad it wasn't a 3rd or pass degree.

I see it as:
3rd: poor, 2:2 average, 2:1 above average, 1st class: Excellent.

You've actually just made me feel a hell of a lot better about my 2:2 degree. Thanks

edit: although after reading bristolpilots reply...its not looking to rosy as my degree is in film and media production...

Mankysteve

I don't think getting a 2:1 will make a huge amount of differnece to your prospect of getting a job every one and his dog has a managment degree nowadays there far too genric to be of any use to an employer. You be better doing more education, such as OU degree in another area that you enjoy.

vaporate

xXMessedUpXx wrote: »

You've actually just made me feel a hell of a lot better about my 2:2 degree. Thanks

:rotfl:You're welcome. I got a 2:2 too by the way. A desmond I think it's called

preciousb

I like the idea of doing masters or aca/acca/cima as i have a good interest in that field. Whilst doing my degree, i did do some accounting modules which i thoroughly enjoyed.

preciousb

Hi just out of curiosity. Has anyone done a 2nd degree? Also would i be able to get funding again for the tution fees from lea.

Voyager2002

preciousb wrote: »

I agree about getting a job but i am applying many times with no success as of yet. Sometimes i think if i am not going to find a job anytime soon, is iteasier to study for the year and would that improve my chances of landing a job.

Although i have been also thinking if i study part time and by chance i do find a job pretty soon. I can balance it out by doing both.

I suspect the problem is about how you present yourself, rather than the qualifications and so forth that you present. I suggest you book a session with a careers adviser to review your CV and letters of application to make sure that you are really doing yourself justice when presenting yourself on paper.

I think that simply "doing a Masters" would do little or nothing to help you. However, the right course with the right content might be what you need.

vaporate

The_One_Who wrote: »

Getting a masters degree is no guarantee to getting a job, at all. It also doesn't really improve your chances.

I wouldn't be THAT dystopian about it. I would advise to go after some kind of qualified status level 5 qualification. Such as PGCE, social worker.

However, even then it can be hard.

The_One_Who

preciousb wrote: »

Hi just out of curiosity. Has anyone done a 2nd degree? Also would i be able to get funding again for the tution fees from lea.

Not if you've already had funding. Also, you may well be liable to pay the 'full' rate, what international students pay for their fees, because you are doing a lower/equivalent qualification.

Mankysteve

preciousb wrote: »

Hi just out of curiosity. Has anyone done a 2nd degree? Also would i be able to get funding again for the tution fees from lea.

You'd have to fund yourself I'am afraid. I had a friend who got a bank loan for his second degree but he never did fail it.