depression

Tiff_2

elona wrote:

(((((((tiff))))))

I had no idea how bad you were feeling.Just wanted to send you a big hug and hope that things get better for you.

Belated Happy New Year to everybody -especially those who are finding things difficult.

Hi elona!:hello:
Huge hug received and appreciated!;) :A
I'm ok hun - it was just a silly Tiff moment. I hope all is well with you angel.
Thank you for your thoughts elona. Take care.
Much Love,
Tiff xxx

Tiff_2

Hi cc!:hello:
Hope you are well hun and rid of that cold.

CCStar wrote:

I am still feeling very angry. I don't like people saying there are people worse off, it never helps and I find it patronising. I know you care but it was clumsily written. I can't deal with it just now.
Oh dear cc - I'm not looking for a fight of any description. Yes cc - I really do care about you and the rest of the family here. I'm sorry that you're still so angry and you felt that way.
I don't think my post was at all patronising. I was trying to say that you angrily posted something that wasn't deserved angel. I admit I was ticked off ,hence my reply because I felt your post was too harsh. As well as talking about my situation and that of others, I also said in my post that your pain is as important as everyone else's, so I wasn't disrespecting your pain. There is nothing worse than being patronising and I didn't mean my post to be. I was trying to say that no-one here would have treated you like that deliberately and that maybe you were being a little over-sensitive and misunderstood - completely understandable with all your stress. I do apologise though for letting my own situation out then.

But sometimes cc, anger can be so self-destructive and I just wanted you to know you weren't deliberately ignored that night imho, and that people probably had other things they were doing or going through and that's why they didn't reply immediately. I wasn't in any way trying to tell you to get a grip hun. I did also say kind things about you in my post that you seem to have missed, that I honestly meant. I'm sorry you ''can't deal with it just now'' but hun, if you post things in an angry and accusatory manner, then maybe some people will be offended and have the right to reply.

I am finding it hard to cope just now. The neighbours are being annoying with texts. They didn't send us a Christmas card for the first time this year... They wished us a happy new year by text, we ignored it. I'm not a hypocrite... I can't take this on top of a long draining cold, being without heat and power.
Hopefully your neighbour problems will soon be gone hun. I know you've had a hard time coping.
You said yourself that you weren't going to send them a card. So you've both done the same thing haven't you? Still, at least they sent you a text wishing you a Happy New Year hun - that's something hun.

I am insulted that you say my post was ''clumsily written''. Do you feel you have the right to judge that hun? Maybe people do think it was clumsily written and I've got it wrong? However, I wouldn't be rude enough to make such a hurtful statement to anyone. I really try and respect other people's feelings. I'm sorry you feel this way hun.
Much Love,
Tiff xxx

Tiff_2

Hi blinky!:hello:
Saw your light on hun. Hoping your well angel and reminding you that you are just a day away from being all luvved up!:j :T

To anyone I haven't got to, I'm sorry - been a Tiff marathon hasn't it?:rolleyes:
Hoping you all have a great day and hope to catch up with you all later
Much Love,
Tiff xxx

blinky

Tiff wrote:

Hi blinky!:hello:
Saw your light on hun. Hoping your well angel and reminding you that you are just a day away from being all luvved up!:j :T
Tiff xxx

I'm fine, a bit stressed though. Got a busy morning around the house for work. I need to pick the parents up tonight as they missed their plane. 'R' gets back tonight - she wanted to see me tonight but she gets back too late



Hope you are feeling better today. I've never really known any agrophobics but I have known people have difficulty going out due to acute anxiety. It must be horrible for you. Not sure if I would be strong enough to cope with it - I need contact with people. Took me years to work that one out!

EthelBloggs

Tiff wrote:

Hi angel!
I wondered how it went hun. How awful for you ethel!
Who were the people you met with? Is she on a section hun? What have they suggested? Where is she now? I'm looking into a couple of things hun as I said to you I would.
Firstly, their duty of care to your daughter is imperative. You need to tell them that, God forbid, if anything happens to your daughter, there'll be legal action involved. The duty of care to her is clear - they have acknowledged the danger she is in. By refusing to put her in secure care, they are not fulfilling their duty and they are leaving her at risk.
Also, have you been in touch with the Patient Advocate who is generally available at most mental health places? They will be able to advise on the legal side of things maybe? It may even be worth having a free initial consultation with a personal injury/malpractice solicitor as to the legality of their lack of care. By doing this, there will be a record somewhere should you ever need to prove the problems you're having.
Write down and date every phone call & every visit ethel. I know this is hard but you need to have this information to a) force them to give proper care & b) to pursue matters if anything does happen-not only financially but because you can use it as evidence towards getting an inquiry by the General Medical Council.
A further approach is via the Human Rights Act and I'll get back to you on that. I'll also PM you later angel. Got an appointment later this morning until early afternoon. I'm thinking of you hun.
Much Love,
Tiff xxx

Thanks Tiffy... I owe you a pm.. didn't realise til just now

I think my first port of call this morning is going to be MIND, for a number of reasons, 1. because I need help to fill in the DLA form for her, 2. because my son needs to have a counsellor and they will provide 20 sessions in return for a donation, he's getting very very stressed and it's coming out in very destructive ways and 3. because I reckon they'll have seen/heard it before and might have an idea of what to do.

I also need to ring the Social Services, fortunately our rather useless social worker has been on leave for the last month so it's been passed to the manager to deal with and she is scary! and she'll go for their jugular

I do keep records of all our meetings and things because my memory is so poor if I don't write things down then I forget

I found what the consultant said yesterday particularly chilling because a few weeks ago I was out shopping and one of those gypsys who sell heather came up to me and said "I'm sorry for your troubles darling.. it's a horrible thing to have to bury your daughter" Now, I'm not normally superstitious in the least but thre is no way she could have known about our situation is there?

Also the consultant said all this stuff in front of her and she literally curled up into a ball and was sucking her thumb and refused to speak after that... he wouldnt let me hug her goodbye.. he put himself between us and said "She's ours now" I so wanted to scoop her up and take her home with me but she wouldnt come.

She's not been sectioned yet as they said she's not in crisis, she's just in a very serious condition - there is a difference apparently?

I appreciate all your help with this.. it's so far out of my field of knowledge that I really feel as tho I'm trying to swim through mud while trying to sort it out.

gonna go get a cuppa and start on the phone calls :eek:

EthelBloggs

Tiff wrote:

I honestly hate the fact that I seem to have accidentally upset some people - sorry.:o
Extra Tiff hugs to all!;)
Much Love,
Tiff xxx

Tiffy.. You shoulda seen what I posted last night......... some people persuaded me to delete it cos of the ructions I'd have caused so I did, don't worry, I think everyone knows that there is isn't a malevolent bone in your body and you'd never deliberately cause hurt or offence. You're definitely one of the good guys :T

xxx

EthelBloggs

Tiff wrote:

Hi cc!:hello:
Hope you are well hun and rid of that cold.

CCStar wrote:

I am still feeling very angry. I don't like people saying there are people worse off, it never helps and I find it patronising. I know you care but it was clumsily written. I can't deal with it just now.
Oh dear cc - I'm not looking for a fight of any description. Yes cc - I really do care about you and the rest of the family here. I'm sorry that you're still so angry and you felt that way.
I don't think my post was at all patronising. I was trying to say that you angrily posted something that wasn't deserved angel. I admit I was ticked off ,hence my reply because I felt your post was too harsh. As well as talking about my situation and that of others, I also said in my post that your pain is as important as everyone else's, so I wasn't disrespecting your pain. There is nothing worse than being patronising and I didn't mean my post to be. I was trying to say that no-one here would have treated you like that deliberately and that maybe you were being a little over-sensitive and misunderstood - completely understandable with all your stress. I do apologise though for letting my own situation out then.

But sometimes cc, anger can be so self-destructive and I just wanted you to know you weren't deliberately ignored that night imho, and that people probably had other things they were doing or going through and that's why they didn't reply immediately. I wasn't in any way trying to tell you to get a grip hun. I did also say kind things about you in my post that you seem to have missed, that I honestly meant. I'm sorry you ''can't deal with it just now'' but hun, if you post things in an angry and accusatory manner, then maybe some people will be offended and have the right to reply.

I am finding it hard to cope just now. The neighbours are being annoying with texts. They didn't send us a Christmas card for the first time this year... They wished us a happy new year by text, we ignored it. I'm not a hypocrite... I can't take this on top of a long draining cold, being without heat and power.
Hopefully your neighbour problems will soon be gone hun. I know you've had a hard time coping.
You said yourself that you weren't going to send them a card. So you've both done the same thing haven't you? Still, at least they sent you a text wishing you a Happy New Year hun - that's something hun.

I am insulted that you say my post was ''clumsily written''. Do you feel you have the right to judge that hun? Maybe people do think it was clumsily written and I've got it wrong? However, I wouldn't be rude enough to make such a hurtful statement to anyone. I really try and respect other people's feelings. I'm sorry you feel this way hun.
Much Love,
Tiff xxx

Well said... and so much more tactfully than I did

blinky

Ethel, hun, how are you today?

Big hugs

geminilady

EthelBloggs wrote:

Tiffy.. You shoulda seen what I posted last night......... some people persuaded me to delete it cos of the ructions I'd have caused so I did, don't worry, I think everyone knows that there is isn't a malevolent bone in your body and you'd never deliberately cause hurt or offence. You're definitely one of the good guys :T

xxx

I have not been with this forum long but i agree with you Tiff is definately one of the good guys and she always gives good advice.I read your post before it was deleated and think you should have left it,i for one agreed with everything you said and i don't think i am the only one.

EthelBloggs

Mornin blinky and GeminiLady

Thanks for that GL.. I think I was just so p1ssed off with everythng I took it all out on one post, lol. As to whether I should have left it.. I don't know.. it probably wouldn't have been worth the upset it would have caused, but thank you for the support

Im ok.. I've just spoken to Mind and they're going to put me in touch with an advocate because they agreed that what happened yesterday was appalling. I have to ring back later. I feel a bit better now that it feels like someone is going to be able to help me do something.