Mattress help!!

andrew-b

Sexy_Legs wrote: »

I am gonig to use http://www.bedlum-beds.co.uk/ as they have the Satisfaction Guarantee.

...and owned by Tim ..but I wouldn't let that put you off ..at least you know where to direct your questions! Though to be fair his the forum bed guru and worth taking onboard his advice as buying a bed is a bit of a minefield to say the least.

We recently bought a new pocket sprung bed made by Old English Bed Company ...very nice bed that i would recommend. We bought from a decent local bed company - wouldn't touch the likes of Dreams etc again who only care about getting their commission!

As others have said avoid Silentnight (and associated companies) like the plague.. i speak from experience as why we needed a new bed was because the silentnight miracoil the internal structure had collapsed and the springs had made a couple of holes through the mattress. That was after less than 5 years! It's nice no longer waking up aching more than when i went to bed the night before!

Tim_Deegan

TiTheRev wrote: »

I must have an obliging dealer near to me then! They offered a 30day satisfaction guarantee, so if I wasn't happy within a month that I could take it back, no charge.

They're not all that nice then?!

No, noy at all. And very few will give a refund.

Murphy40

Hi Tim

I wondered if you could comment on this bed for me?

Millbrooks comfort medium 1000 divan set.

I've tried it out in the shop and really like it.

Grateful for any comments you may have, good or bad!

Thanks

Tim_Deegan

Murphy40 wrote: »

Hi Tim

I wondered if you could comment on this bed for me?

Millbrooks comfort medium 1000 divan set.

I've tried it out in the shop and really like it.

Grateful for any comments you may have, good or bad!

Thanks

Millbrook are one of the better big brands, but this is only a basic model. The prices I've seen for it are very expesive for this spec of mattress.

dwigg

Hi there.
I bought a La Romantica 8 months ago, and here's my review of it. It was not the Madrid, but the one a little softer than that (can't remember the name!). It's a pocket sprung mattress with 2.5" foam each side on a sprung slatted base. I went to the manufacturers location to try some beds and felt the latex foam as well, but I didn't like it so went for the other memory foam. Here goes:

One person moving around does not 'bounce' the other person around - I can get into bed without waking the Missus and I'm not a small bloke!

The tufted areas do not allow the foam to expand, so it's like there's no foam in those places. No tufting felt better when I tried one (summer/winter version).
These tufted areas are like little 'craters' in the bed, about 7" in diameter. My double bed has 18 of these so that's quite a lot of bed space where the foam is compressed to some degree, thus effectively no/less foam in those areas.

Foam 'support' does not really support you, it just fills in the gaps better. The foam compresses under your weight, so where's the 'support'? It does mould/shape itself around you, but I would not call it 'support'.

I would not say that 2.5" foam is optimal, in fact 2.5" foam does not feel very much at all. It might look deep when you push your hand into it directly, but this is not what happens in real life - you have both a material cover (part of the mattress itself) pulled tight over the foam, and then a bedsheet over the top of that.
So more foam would not make you sink in deeper because the sheet you sleep on doesn't let you sink in, therefore I believe that a little more foam would feel better.

Being turnable is very good indeed. I now wouldn't want one that is not turnable.

I had to add a pegboard (from Jewson) as the bed slats were really digging into the mattress, and adding extra slats was not possible.

A very soft surface texture to sleep on makes it very comfortable. We both love our bed.

I used to suffer from feeling hot in bed, but this bed does not feel hot, in fact it seems very cold when getting in compared to previous divan.
It could be 'cos I specified Climasmart, and I have to say that even when the (few) summer nights were very warm I was still at a comfortable temperature.

The missus can still use a waterbottle which is good, 'cos as previously mentioned, this is a colder bed to get into then we used to have (a plus point for me!).

I bought the 2nd firmest mattress and it's softened even more. I would get the firmest version now. Mine makes me feel it sort of 'leans' outwards and feels like there's a bit of a ridge running down the middle where neither of us sleep on it. A funny feeling, possibly because it is the slightly softer mattress.

Hope these comments from a real-word user help.
Darren.

Tim_Deegan

dwigg wrote: »

Foam 'support' does not really support you, it just fills in the gaps better. The foam compresses under your weight, so where's the 'support'? It does mould/shape itself around you, but I would not call it 'support'.

What memory foam does is to spread your weight out to give you even support, so that you don't get pressure points. It does this as you say, by filling the gaps.

You are supposed to get support from the springs underneath the memory foam also. The memory foam mainly evens the pressure out.

dwigg wrote: »

I would not say that 2.5" foam is optimal, in fact 2.5" foam does not feel very much at all. It might look deep when you push your hand into it directly, but this is not what happens in real life - you have both a material cover (part of the mattress itself) pulled tight over the foam, and then a bedsheet over the top of that.
So more foam would not make you sink in deeper because the sheet you sleep on doesn't let you sink in, therefore I believe that a little more foam would feel better.

Actually you would sink deeper into deeper memory foam. Even with sheets pulled tight, they would just pull loose (unless you have sheets pulled tight like a trampolene, that you can actually bounce on). So with deeper memory foam you would sink almost the full depth of it, which can mean that you become engulfed, making it very hot, and making it difficult to change position.

dwigg

Tim_Deegan wrote: »

Actually you would sink deeper into deeper memory foam. Even with sheets pulled tight, they would just pull loose (unless you have sheets pulled tight like a trampolene, that you can actually bounce on). So with deeper memory foam you would sink almost the full depth of it, which can mean that you become engulfed, making it very hot, and making it difficult to change position.

Is that really true, even though the foam on the mattress is covered by a top layer of matress material?

I look at the tufting 'buttons' which are much less than the foams 2.5" thickness, they are pulled hard into the mattress yet still they are not engulfed, rather they sit on top quite nicely with the material directly underneath them going into a crater shape.

I can't see how a person resting on top would be worse than these buttons?
Not sure If my description is all that good, but hopefully you can pick up on my logic?

Tim_Deegan

dwigg wrote: »

Is that really true, even though the foam on the mattress is covered by a top layer of matress material?

I look at the tufting 'buttons' which are much less than the foams 2.5" thickness, they are pulled hard into the mattress yet still they are not engulfed, rather they sit on top quite nicely with the material directly underneath them going into a crater shape.

I can't see how a person resting on top would be worse than these buttons?
Not sure If my description is all that good, but hopefully you can pick up on my logic?

Yes it is true. This is why 4 way stretch material is used on memory foam mattresses.

They would be woolen tufts and not buttons, and the memory foam would be 2" and not 2.5".

The more you sink into a mattress the more of your body surface area it is in contact with, as it wraps around the side of your body. The more contact area, and the more distance the heat has to travel before it is dissipated by air circulating under the memory foam, the more the heat will build up.

As I said, the memory foams main purpose is to spread your weight out so that you are supported evenly without pressure points. It will do this with or without the tufts, as the tufts aren't recessed the full depth of the memory foam. Memory foam is not there to give a deep soft topping. And you shouldn't feel like you are in a mould, as this would make it difficult to change position.

Murphy40

Hi Tim

Thanks for your reply (post 65). I'm able to get a superking divan set for £838 with 4 drawers (2 continental and 2 large). Is this too much do you think for the spec?

Thank you

Tim_Deegan

Murphy40 wrote: »

Hi Tim

Thanks for your reply (post 65). I'm able to get a superking divan set for £838 with 4 drawers (2 continental and 2 large). Is this too much do you think for the spec?

Thank you

That is expensive for what is a basic model.