Parent and child parking

trisontana

donquine wrote: »

If a space says disabled, it should be for anyone with a blue badge, whether their disability is visible or not.

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Actually if the supermarket restricts a "disabled space" just to blue-badge holders then they are breaking the DDA. This act states that spaces must be set aside for disabled people, but there is no mention of blue badges, because they have no legal standing in private car-parks. So just saying that those spaces are reserved for blue-badge holders would be classed as discrimination against other disabled people.

poet123

trisontana wrote: »

Actually if the supermarket restricts a "disabled space" just to blue-badge holders then they are breaking the DDA. This act states that spaces must be set aside for disabled people, but there is no mention of blue badges, because they have no legal standing in private car-parks. So just saying that those spaces are reserved for blue-badge holders would be classed as discrimination against other disabled people.

That is very interesting, but I don't think that it is how it is policed on the ground, as I believe that unless you display a badge they now "fine" you.

3plus1

trisontana wrote: »

Actually if the supermarket restricts a "disabled space" just to blue-badge holders then they are breaking the DDA. This act states that spaces must be set aside for disabled people, but there is no mention of blue badges, because they have no legal standing in private car-parks. So just saying that those spaces are reserved for blue-badge holders would be classed as discrimination against other disabled people.

Thought this thread was debating morals rather than the law?

TBH, if I were to park in a disabled space, it would be just as mick taking as a parent with a 20 year old child parking in a parent with child space. I'm disabled - I don't need a wide parking space. That's not what my disability is about. Hence why I have no blue badge!

ckerrd

poet123 wrote: »

That is very interesting, but I don't think that it is how it is policed on the ground, as I believe that unless you display a badge they now "fine" you.

You may get an unenforceable invoice but you certainly wont get fined.

No need to pay should you get one.

donquine

trisontana wrote: »

Actually if the supermarket restricts a "disabled space" just to blue-badge holders then they are breaking the DDA. This act states that spaces must be set aside for disabled people, but there is no mention of blue badges, because they have no legal standing in private car-parks. So just saying that those spaces are reserved for blue-badge holders would be classed as discrimination against other disabled people.

If you park in a parent with child space, you can prove entitlement as you'll have a child with you. If you're disabled, it's not necessarily visible. A blue badge proves you're disabled and a disabled space would be helpful.

To say any disabled person could park in a disabled space just opens things up to abuse. Anyone could pretend they had a disability.

At the end of the day, most supermarket car parks are privately run and legally, parking 'fines' issued there aren't enforceable.

ckerrd

donquine wrote: »

If you park in a parent with child space, you can prove entitlement as you'll have a child with you. If you're disabled, it's not necessarily visible. A blue badge proves you're disabled and a disabled space would be helpful. There is no entitlement to parking in a P&C space

To say any disabled person could park in a disabled space just opens things up to abuse. Anyone could pretend they had a disability. And anyone can park in a "disabled " space

At the end of the day, most supermarket car parks are privately run and legally, parking 'fines' issued there aren't enforceable.

At the end of the day you can park where you like.

ckerrd

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8432887.stm

The answer to the OP's problems

donquine

ckerrd wrote: »

At the end of the day you can park where you like.

You could. But if you were a decent human being, you'd use the spaces provided in the spirit of how they were provided, particularly given that it's usually free to park in a supermarket car park. See post 61.

If people with kids parked in parent and child spaces and people with blue badges parked in disabled spaces and everyone else parked in the other spaces, it would be a lot more pleasant.

You don't have to by law - I agree with you there - it's just the decent thing to do. If people play fairly - i.e. if you see a car with a blue badge parked in a nice wide disabled space at the front of the car park - there's less resentment.

sarahg1969

donquine wrote: »

You could. But if you were a decent human being, you'd use the spaces provided in the spirit of how they were provided, particularly given that it's usually free to park in a supermarket car park. See post 61.

If people with kids parked in parent and child spaces and people with blue badges parked in disabled spaces and everyone else parked in the other spaces, it would be a lot more pleasant.

You don't have to by law - I agree with you there - it's just the decent thing to do. If people play fairly - i.e. if you see a car with a blue badge parked in a nice wide disabled space at the front of the car park - there's less resentment.

It would also be decent for blue badge holders not to use the spaces if they don't need to.

Tigsteroonie

Anihilator wrote: »

Why on earth do you think you should get to park near an entrance just because you have a child?

Near the entrance?

At our Asda, if you don't get one of the four P&C spaces by the front door, the rest of the P&C spaces are at the very far end of the car park ... And yes, I do drive all the way to the end, park, and then push the buggy all the way back to the entrance. (Or rather, Marley pushes it!)

I could probably park closer in a row of empty spaces but, why is it that no matter where I park in an empty car park, somebody always parks next to me? :rotfl: