had a crash today :(

DaveMacD

tomstickland wrote: »

ied on, it's up the middle lane user to check that the vehicle to their left isn't going to carry on.

I've had a look at the photo now. From what I can see, all three lanes do carry on round the roundabout to the right. So it is possible for someone to use the left hand lane and carry on round the roundabout.

The road layout has changed from the overhead shot, see the other ground level pics, and you will see that the left hand lane is EXCLUSIVELY for traffic leaving at that exit.

The crasher left his lane. It's not the responsibility of the OP to check the other person hasn't made a !!!! up in his direction, it's the car in the inside lane that should be checking it is safe to change lanes, which he obviously failed to do, or there would have been no crash.

hothothot_3

If people would look at the photographs supplied, they would notice a big white arrow pointing left, in the left hand lane. this means that lane is ONLY for going LEFT.

It is so basic, it is laughable that anyone could suggest otherwise.

tomstickland

bikingbarney wrote: »

why should i have to drive stupidly to avoid something i didnt see happening??

It would have been good practice to consider that the other party might continue on round the roundabout. The best solution with a ditherer like this is to make a smart exit so you clear the danger area before they have a chance to involve you in their mess.

tomstickland

The road layout has changed from the overhead shot, see the other ground level pics,

OK, that might change my opinion

tomstickland

hothothot wrote: »

If people would look at the photographs supplied, they would notice a big white arrow pointing left, in the left hand lane. this means that lane is ONLY for going LEFT.

It is so basic, it is laughable that anyone could suggest otherwise.

You mean the ground level photos, not the aerial photo.

The photos don't show left turn arrows. They show straight on arrows. Exiting from a roundabout is considered to be a left turn. Therefore I wouldn't want to get involved in a legal battle as to whether they could go straight on if they wanted to.

DaveMacD

bikingbarney wrote: »

why should i have to drive stupidly to avoid something i didnt see happening??

Never said you should, someone else is mis-interpreting what I am typing.

My original post "But if the OP had checked his blindspot, it's possible that they may have been able to take avoiding action. They shouldn't have had to, but it's better to take the action and be ok, than to exert that you are right, but end up injured."

It's quite likely that there is nothing you could have done to avoid the crash if the other person was adamant about coming in beside you. What I said was if you had noticed he was coming over, you could have taken avoiding action. But since you didn't see him, you couldn't. Doesn't absolve them of the blame since they shouldn't have changed lanes without checking there was space for them.

hothothot_3

tomstickland

That's the ideal and what you'd expect most people to do.
However, it does happen that someone will use the left hand lane to carry on round the roundabout.

My solution to such a situation is to pull away quickly so that the ditherer is behind me as quickly as possible.

Like I said, if someone wants to be pedantic, the arrows show straight on, whereas pulling off a roundabout is a left turn.

iamana1ias

bikingbarney wrote: »

at the next next set of light i pulled next to him and indicated left to show my intentions, it is up to him if he notices or not.

as i said we both puled away together , i checked my mirror and couldnt see him and then he hit me.

so where did you think he had gone?

DaveMacD

Can see it easier here, there are clearly lane dividers showing that the left lane leaves at that junction. The arrow is to stop folk from thinking they can execute a left turn at the off ramp the Pug is emerging from.