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Annoyed with JSA...

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  • dmg24
    dmg24 Posts: 33,920 Forumite
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    edited 24 December 2009 at 6:55AM
    The fact that I do not have to rely on JSA would imply that is not the case. ;)

    donnajunkie, I agree that it is not ideal that the OP has to pay for childcare (although I did also suggest that they ensure the children are out of school on time, which costs nothing ;) ), but the financial benefits of her being able to sign on in the long term far outweigh the cost of a one off expense. Also, remember that their partner is in full time employment, they do have a family income.
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  • dookar
    dookar Posts: 1,654 Forumite
    aj2703 wrote: »
    Can you actually do that without it affecting your claim..? If you can then that is a great idea..!:D.

    Yes you can, you are currently not available for work and risk your benefit being stopped, I suggest you get your agreement changed ASAP
  • aj2703
    aj2703 Posts: 876 Forumite
    i thanked this post as the same thought occurred to me. however after discovering that it would cost them £21 i wish i could remove my thanks. nothing against you its just the cost issue changes things.


    Yes exactly.... you see if i worked fulltime, which i did till July this year they would go in there.

    When i first signed on they wanted me to sign on at 2.30pm i said that wouldn't be realistic as i would have to pic my children up at 3 and getting from ryde to shanklin might prove hard if i was held up for whatever reason. They said good point so changed my sign on time to 11.25am, thus leaving me plenty of time to drop them off etc.

    With this new thing, if you have been unemployed for over six months that set sign on time changes EVERY time you sign on. Thus one week i might be required to sign on at say even 2.15 which would be hard to get back to them and the next time it could be 9.15. If it were to be an early sign on time, the preschool charges would roughly be the same.
  • donnajunkie
    donnajunkie Posts: 32,412 Forumite
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    aj2703 wrote: »
    Been told i have to attend my 6 month interview which is fair enough. My usual sign on time is 11.25am. They did for me becasue i have children and i have to take them at 9am to school and pick them up at 3pm from school.My origional sign on time was 2.30. I signed on today and she notified me of the 6 month. I said no worries thinking it was going to be at my usual time of 11.25 am, trouble is that it is not it's 15.30. Now i live in shanklin and said it would be very tight to get there in time espically if the kids came out of school late. She basically said tough there is no flexibility in this. The thing is she then said that my sign on time is not at a set time anymore and when i attend this interview i will be given my next sign on time and when i then sign on i will be given a different sign on time etc etc etc. I said to her, well what if the sign on time is 3pm or 9am when i am doing the kids and again basically she said tough. I said hang on there must be something that could be done to which she relied, well you signed the agreement to be avaliable at all times for employment, what would happen with the kids if you got a job tomorrow..?. I said that there is a pre-school and after school club wheich they could attend at very short notice which we used when i was working. I said what i didn't sign up for was a flexibile sign on time while job hunting. How can they expect us to pick up the kids and sign on at the same time. I mean we can't claim childcare costs or tax credits for them while we are unemployed so what are we supposed to do with the kids. She then turned round and said i probably could sign on late using a green card :confused:. Does anyboy know what this is and if she was just being obnoxious and there is some flexibility in the times i can sign on.

    basically people claiming jsa are expected to be available for work, interviews and other jobsearching activity at all times. well certainly between something like 8am to 5pm monday to friday. the jobcentre can be flexible if they want surely. i think the person you spoke to must be a right c***. when you have your 6 month interview bring it up with them as they maybe more reasonable and able to help. to get your hopes up though. when you get to 12 months you may get sent on a full time course. so you need to keep that in mind.
  • aj2703
    aj2703 Posts: 876 Forumite
    dookar wrote: »
    Yes you can, you are currently not available for work and risk your benefit being stopped, I suggest you get your agreement changed ASAP

    Thankyou a very sensibile and constructive comment. DOOKAR thankyou very much i shall go there tomorrow and ask them about it.
  • donnajunkie
    donnajunkie Posts: 32,412 Forumite
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    dmg24 wrote: »

    donnajunkie, I agree that it is not ideal that the OP has to pay for childcare (although I did also suggest that they ensure the children are out of school on time, which costs nothing ;) ), but the financial benefits of her being able to sign on in the long term far outweigh the cost of a one off expense. Also, remember that their partner is in full time employment, they do have a family income.

    it is interesting that they choose to sign on. i say that only because any married women i have known who have kids and a husband in work have never signed on.
  • aj2703
    aj2703 Posts: 876 Forumite
    basically people claiming jsa are expected to be available for work, interviews and other jobsearching activity at all times. well certainly between something like 8am to 5pm monday to friday. the jobcentre can be flexible if they want surely. i think the person you spoke to must be a right c***. when you have your 6 month interview bring it up with them as they maybe more reasonable and able to help. to get your hopes up though. when you get to 12 months you may get sent on a full time course. so you need to keep that in mind.

    At twelve months my insurance will be all paid up. So if push came to shove so to speak i could sign off completely and not have to worry about it. Saying that though surely for people with kids, there must be some sort of scheme. How can they be expected to pay for their children to go into childcare so they go on a fulltime course. I remember when i worked during the summer holidays it was £300 odd pound a week to put them in care all day while we worked.
  • donnajunkie
    donnajunkie Posts: 32,412 Forumite
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    i've just remembered something i believe you can claim financial help for child care costs that you incur due to things like jobcentre appointments. i am not sure if it would apply to a regular signing time that would cause a need for childcare. it is worth enquiring about.
  • You know, I have never signed on as a married woman either, I have never thought about this, the partner with majority care for the children cannot really be available all of the time can they? I mean once they are in work then theoretically then they can because of childcare, but not until because they can't pay for the carer can they, mmmmm
    Blackpool_Saver is female, and does not live in Blackpool

  • aj2703
    aj2703 Posts: 876 Forumite
    dmg24 wrote: »
    The fact that I do not have to rely on JSA would imply that is not the case. ;)

    donnajunkie, I agree that it is not ideal that the OP has to pay for childcare (although I did also suggest that they ensure the children are out of school on time, which costs nothing ;) ), but the financial benefits of her being able to sign on in the long term far outweigh the cost of a one off expense. Also, remember that their partner is in full time employment, they do have a family income.

    You are one of the lucky ones.
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