Not allowed photography at school play??

Primrose

I often wonder why sensible parents allow themselves to be dictated to in this way and lie down and let the bureaucratic Health and Safety tanks drive all over them. If parents got together through the Parent Teacher Associations and just voted with their feet and boycotted all events which implemented these stupid rules it might bring some sanity back into school events, Christmas nativity plays, sports days and all other events involving children.
One day parents will want to open their photo albums when their children are grown up to revisit their happy memories and what will they find? Blank pages because the Health & Safety people banned any photograph which might be worthy of finding its way into a photo album. Just take the darned photos anyway and if somebody objects, make a big issue of it and make the officials look stupid. Most authorities end up back-tracking as soon as they find themselves the topic of public humiliation.

Knub

Paparika wrote: »

ok I'm going to tell you a story, it's real, and it happens every single day.

Imagine a mum with lets say three children 1, 3, and 8 youngest is in a buggy, mum has dragged the kids to a supermarket to do the weekly shop, she is a lone parent, no one to look after the kids whilst she shops so she takes them with her, when she leaves the store it has started to tip down.


A man nicely dressed, looks cheerful, walks past, he notices she is struggling with the bags of shopping and the children, the rain is really falling now, and the mum is trying to get to the bus stop, he asks if she needs any help, she says no thanks, he asks, are you going to the bus stop, she says yes, hes kind in his manner and says look let me help you, your getting soaked, (the kids are screaming, the bags look like they are about to split) so she agrees that yes just to the bus stop. He helps her, asks where she is going, she doesn't want to say, he leaves it like that.

The following week he finds her again at the supermarket, says hello to her and the children, she remembers him so doesn't see his as much of a stranger now. He tells her his name, and where he lives, she tells him where she lives.....

oh he says, I'm going that way after the shopping want a lift, no she says still unsure, he produces some sweets for the children and asks is it ok for them to have them, yes she says, the children are happy. he continues to have friendly chatter and asks again, look i am going your way, it's raining, be quicker to get you and the kids home, she says ok yes thanks.

He drives her home, lots of friendly chat, asking questions, helps the bags to the door, he notices the light isn't working in the hall way, oh he says, do you have a light bulb, yes she says, just haven't got around to it. Oh give it here, i'll do it, won't take a second, then i must go.

She gives him a light bulb and he replaces the bulb for her, he smiles and says i must go, but I'd like to see you again, she agrees, and they do meet up, he becomes her boyfriend, but what she didn't know... he is buying his time, what he really wants is the 3 year old, but he waits, he prefers 5 year old girls, he will wait until she is 5. once he has finished, he will dump the woman, and pass information on to the next man, who will again befriend the woman to get at her children, if they fit the ages he desires.

This isn't made up. Scare you, so it should. that man spent a few years being the perfect boyfriend, went to the school plays, took pictures, passed those pictures on to his 'friends'.

You can criticise the way the woman allowed him into her life, but in all honesty....she was lonely, he was paying her attention, made it clear he wanted to see her, they became boyfriend / girlfriend, she didn't know what his motives were until after he left.

You should write for the Daily Mail!

mandi

Paparika wrote: »

ok I'm going to tell you a story, it's real, and it happens every single day.

Imagine a mum with lets say three children 1, 3, and 8 youngest is in a buggy, mum has dragged the kids to a supermarket to do the weekly shop, she is a lone parent, no one to look after the kids whilst she shops so she takes them with her, when she leaves the store it has started to tip down.


A man nicely dressed, looks cheerful, walks past, he notices she is struggling with the bags of shopping and the children, the rain is really falling now, and the mum is trying to get to the bus stop, he asks if she needs any help, she says no thanks, he asks, are you going to the bus stop, she says yes, hes kind in his manner and says look let me help you, your getting soaked, (the kids are screaming, the bags look like they are about to split) so she agrees that yes just to the bus stop. He helps her, asks where she is going, she doesn't want to say, he leaves it like that.

The following week he finds her again at the supermarket, says hello to her and the children, she remembers him so doesn't see his as much of a stranger now. He tells her his name, and where he lives, she tells him where she lives.....

oh he says, I'm going that way after the shopping want a lift, no she says still unsure, he produces some sweets for the children and asks is it ok for them to have them, yes she says, the children are happy. he continues to have friendly chatter and asks again, look i am going your way, it's raining, be quicker to get you and the kids home, she says ok yes thanks.

He drives her home, lots of friendly chat, asking questions, helps the bags to the door, he notices the light isn't working in the hall way, oh he says, do you have a light bulb, yes she says, just haven't got around to it. Oh give it here, i'll do it, won't take a second, then i must go.

She gives him a light bulb and he replaces the bulb for her, he smiles and says i must go, but I'd like to see you again, she agrees, and they do meet up, he becomes her boyfriend, but what she didn't know... he is buying his time, what he really wants is the 3 year old, but he waits, he prefers 5 year old girls, he will wait until she is 5. once he has finished, he will dump the woman, and pass information on to the next man, who will again befriend the woman to get at her children, if they fit the ages he desires.

This isn't made up. Scare you, so it should. that man spent a few years being the perfect boyfriend, went to the school plays, took pictures, passed those pictures on to his 'friends'.

You can criticise the way the woman allowed him into her life, but in all honesty....she was lonely, he was paying her attention, made it clear he wanted to see her, they became boyfriend / girlfriend, she didn't know what his motives were until after he left.

Not having a dig at you here but only an idiot would fall for that ploy in this day & age .

Im a lone parent & if some bloke approched me in a supermarket car park , I would tell him to go fourth & multiply ( but not as politely...... )

iamana1ias

mandi wrote: »

Not having a dig at you here but only an idiot would fall for that ploy in this day & age[/

is paed0phillia a new thing then? or do you mean that people should give up offering help to people because they'll be branded paed0philes before you can say 'neurotic parents'?

Paparika

Knub wrote: »

You should write for the Daily Mail!

Why? this isn't a glorified story to shock you, this was from a statement of a mother who's child was a victim, so smart smug comments don't work with me.

mandi wrote: »

Not having a dig at you here but only an idiot would fall for that ploy in this day & age .

Im a lone parent & if some bloke approched me in a supermarket car park , I would tell him to go fourth & multiply ( but not as politely...... )

of course, we all think we would be able to spot one, because they are all dirty old men aren't they? they will befriend first, he could be that cute guy at that party last week, that mate of your brother, that lone dad who's child has recently started at your child's school... thats the whole point in grooming, he will do what ever it takes, even having sex with the woman and letting her think they have a fantastic relationship that looks perfect, in fact she will tell you it is perfect.

borokat

Paparika wrote: »

been like this for years

Unfortunately it is amazing some lengths !!!!!philes will go to get pictures of children, I know, i worked with them in the past and the training told you all about the grooming the will do.

Not being funny, but wouldn't they be after stronger material than kids dressed up for a nativity? It's nothing they couldn't get from a kids clothing catologue. I just don't see how this could be a proper reason for not letting parents record a special moment in their child's life.

mrcow

Paparika wrote: »

This isn't made up. Scare you, so it should. that man spent a few years being the perfect boyfriend, went to the school plays, took pictures, passed those pictures on to his 'friends'.

You can criticise the way the woman allowed him into her life, but in all honesty....she was lonely, he was paying her attention, made it clear he wanted to see her, they became boyfriend / girlfriend, she didn't know what his motives were until after he left.

Whilst I appreciate that you've gone to great lengths to tell us a story you experienced........

What has any of this got to do with taking photos at a school?

As for your story, there are plenty of easier ways that someone will groom a mother of young children. Your story has less to do with being aware of people in public places and more to do with be careful who you let though the front door and into the more intimate parts of your life

Paparika

borokat wrote: »

Not being funny, but wouldn't they be after stronger material than kids dressed up for a nativity? It's nothing they couldn't get from a kids clothing catologue. I just don't see how this could be a proper reason for not letting parents record a special moment in their child's life.

like little girls in their underwear? no not really, they could be window shopping

willa123

I work in a Nursery School & our Nativity it tomorrow,Friday & Saturday. Parents are banned from Video Recording - but they can take pictures of their children after the performance.

dgl1001

PrincessPlaty wrote: »

Sorry i disagree with you there is nothing sick about it at all. If my daughter was caught in a photograph taken by another person and was then identified by her father that would put her, my other daughter and myself in extreme danger.

How is then anything sick about protecting children? Ok not everyones situation is the same as mine put as a previous poster said what about children that are 'looked after' nobody knows the circumstances of these children or what risk they could be at if they were identified.

Why is it ok to put another child at risk just for the sake of taking a few photographs of a school play?

Surely if your daughter was at such a high level of risk, why would you have her in the school play? i believe that parents should be able to take pictures of school plays - it was fine when i was a child.