anyone not drive?

MrsE_2

shellsuit wrote: »

Cos he's lazy! He even goes in the car to the shop and it's only a 3 min walk away :rolleyes::rotfl:

He doesn't like walking and doesn't like public transport. I tell him he would be fked if he ever lost his license or we didn't have a car.

I could walk for miles, even when we go shopping (say round Cheshire Oaks outlet or something) he moans about all the walking.

He works over all though and uses a works van, so is used to driving a lot.

But loads of men are like that, won't walk or get buses.

Buses are full of women & children (when outside of commuting hours).

Why are buses considered "good enough" for women, but in a relationship the man has to learn to drive, pass his test & run a car.

If they can't run two, how many times is it the bloke goes without the car:rolleyes:

Catblue

MrsE wrote: »

I think it does matter.

Just as the average full time female wage is well below the average full time male wage.

I'm not sure that I am following you here.

Are you asserting that female non-drivers earn well below the income level of male non-drivers?

And that female drivers are somehow on more of an economic par with male drivers, although there is still a big gap?

Maybe it is all just down to the age-old appalling disparity of male and female earnings and nothing to do with driving.

MrsE_2

Catblue wrote: »

I'm not sure that I am following you here.

Are you asserting that female non-drivers earn well below the income level of male non-drivers? I don't think there are many male non drivers, not enough to tell.

And that female drivers are somehow on more of an economic par with male drivers, although there is still a big gap? Not necessarily.

Maybe it is all just down to the age-old appalling disparity of male and female earnings and nothing to do with driving.

I think the inequality in wages/money is the cause & effect of the inequality in driving/car ownership.

angeltreats

MrsE wrote: »

How many households do you know where ONLY one partner drives & its the woman, not many I'll bet.

Two that I can think of, both friends in their late twenties/early thirties.

One friend drives and her partner doesn't but he rides a motorbike, and is doing his bike test this month, but has never had any interest at all in driving a car.

The other friend has a husband who keeps threatening to learn but never gets around to it. She is quite happy being the only driver as she says it's one of the few things she can do that he can't!

shellsuit

MrsE wrote: »

But loads of men are like that, won't walk or get buses.

Buses are full of women & children (when outside of commuting hours).

Why are buses considered "good enough" for women, but in a relationship the man has to learn to drive, pass his test & run a car.

If they can't run two, how many times is it the bloke goes without the car:rolleyes:

I've never been on a bus thats been full of women and children?

Buses I get on are a mix of young and old and of both sex's but I don't get them that often.

Public transport is good enough for anyone, it's just who chooses to use it.

OH put in for his test because he wanted a car to enable him to get a better job (so for travelling to work)

My jobs have always been close to home, because of the children.

If I didn't have children, I could well see myself driving because I wouldn't feel the need to be near to home all the time.

MrsE_2

angeltreats wrote: »

Two that I can think of, both friends in their late twenties/early thirties.

One friend drives and her partner doesn't but he rides a motorbike, and is doing his bike test this month, but has never had any interest at all in driving a car.

The other friend has a husband who keeps threatening to learn but never gets around to it. She is quite happy being the only driver as she says it's one of the few things she can do that he can't!

How many friends have you where only the man in the couple drives though?

MrsE_2

shellsuit wrote: »

I've never been on a bus thats been full of women and children?

Buses I get on are a mix of young and old and of both sex's but I don't get them that often.

Public transport is good enough for anyone, it's just who chooses to use it.

OH put in for his test because he wanted a car to enable him to get a better job (so for travelling to work)

My jobs have always been close to home, because of the children.

If I didn't have children, I could well see myself driving because I wouldn't feel the need to be near to home all the time.

I was being "tongue in cheek" with the good enough comment.

What I'm saving is in loads of lower social economic groups (& my DH comes from a BIG family) its always the women that don't drive.

Only enough money for one car & driver, so the man learns & he owns the car.

Catblue

MrsE wrote: »

I think the inequality in wages/money is the cause & effect of the inequality in driving/car ownership.

You may well be right and maybe learning to drive is one way of saying to the world "I'm in charge, I'm in control, I'm going where I want to go".

And maybe that mindset does sometimes translate into a forward-looking attitude to a career. Not always though, of course.

Sometimes the mindset is simply "I'm lazy, I am entirely selfish and will learn to drive so that I can park my car in a disabled space so that I don't have to walk 10 yards".

angeltreats

MrsE wrote: »

How many friends have you where only the man in the couple drives though?

Honestly, not counting family (who are all older) I can't think of any. The non-driving female friends I have back home are all single, but I also know lots of blokes back home who don't drive either. And I know lots of people of both sexes in London who don't drive (because in London there is just never the need for a car). But I seriously can't think of any couple I know where only the bloke drives.

And in fact I've remembered another couple where the woman drives but the bloke doesn't - our old landlord and his girlfriend. When they moved house she hired a van and moved all their furniture.

BallandChain

I drive but my OH doesn't and he's male. People seem to raise their eyebrows as they have this look that he must have had his driving license taken off him, but the truth is he took a few driving lessons and hated it.