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The Sub Prime Credit Thread - Part IV

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  • Innocent_Guy
    Innocent_Guy Posts: 5,369 Forumite
    Name:MR INNOCENT GUY
    Address:NEVER YOU MIND
    Date of birth:-200YEARS LOL
    Searched on:03/12/2009
    Time at address:11 years 00 months
    Searched By:VODAFONE LTD
    Application Type:Utility
    Bank Accounts - Barlcays Premier[/B] - £1000 o/d, HSBC - £200 o/d- First Direct - £500
    Credit Cards - Barclaycard £2000 - Silver Card £1300 - Flybe £7500 - HSBC £1000 - First Direct £2500 First Direct Gold £3000
    6 credit accounts closed in 2010!

    Official SOS Club number 001 - Dry until 01.07.10
  • never-in-doubt
    never-in-doubt Posts: 20,613 Forumite
    Do phone companys use an N-Hunter type system?

    Nope - they do not mate. N Hunter is usually built into Experian systems but the utility (and mobile) companies opt out cos it really isn't worth their while. They don't usually subscribe to CIFAS either... :D
    :o 2010 - year of the troll :o

    Niddy - Over & Out :wave:
  • TheEffect
    TheEffect Posts: 2,293 Forumite
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    Nope - they do not mate. N Hunter is usually built into Experian systems but the utility (and mobile) companies opt out cos it really isn't worth their while. They don't usually subscribe to CIFAS either... :D

    Vodafone does use National Hunter. I was told this when I applied for an N97.
    Also here.
  • never-in-doubt
    never-in-doubt Posts: 20,613 Forumite
    edited 4 December 2009 at 10:58PM
    TheEffect wrote: »
    Vodafone does use National Hunter. I was told this when I applied for an N97.
    Also here.

    Mate Voda Italy :confused::confused:

    Voda UK doesn't - unless it is a recent change? The reason that utility companies do not use it in the UK is because it isn't worthwhile - the projected loss wouldn't warrant the fee for subscribing.

    N Hunter is designed to allow lenders the facility to see variations in application data provided by the consumer to the company. In the case of utility companies, such as Voda, using it - there are only 4 other companies (orange, o2, 3, T-Mobile) that could be used and N Hunter wouldn't play a part in the other 4 because they do not subscribe either!

    N Hunter is only any good to subscribers that look at the data provided, so if Voda did it and the other 4 never then its a waste of money - quite simply because the purpose of prevention would not kick-in due to the other utility companies not subscribing.

    Anyway, things may have changed - :confused::confused:

    How do you mean 'it was used when you applied for an N97'? You'd never know unless you SAR'd N Hunter and it showed there, in which case i'd be worrying....? I have an N97 (plus 2 other good phones) and N Hunter was not showing any ref to Voda when I SAR'd them.....
    :o 2010 - year of the troll :o

    Niddy - Over & Out :wave:
  • TheEffect wrote: »
    Vodafone does use National Hunter. I was told this when I applied for an N97.
    Also here.
    Only Italy mate?
    Bank Accounts - Barlcays Premier[/B] - £1000 o/d, HSBC - £200 o/d- First Direct - £500
    Credit Cards - Barclaycard £2000 - Silver Card £1300 - Flybe £7500 - HSBC £1000 - First Direct £2500 First Direct Gold £3000
    6 credit accounts closed in 2010!

    Official SOS Club number 001 - Dry until 01.07.10
  • TBH my N-Hunter should be flagging as I have deffo had some inconsitancies however my OH has had similar and has caused her no issues.

    My main discrepancy is time at address - I had a temp address, that is showing on my report that I always fail to disclose..... This is because I have had my current address for 11years however if I included the additional address I would only be there for 6 months as I moved out then back in.

    Sorry for any spelling or gramatical errors ( using iphone )
    Bank Accounts - Barlcays Premier[/B] - £1000 o/d, HSBC - £200 o/d- First Direct - £500
    Credit Cards - Barclaycard £2000 - Silver Card £1300 - Flybe £7500 - HSBC £1000 - First Direct £2500 First Direct Gold £3000
    6 credit accounts closed in 2010!

    Official SOS Club number 001 - Dry until 01.07.10
  • I need a new bank account - although the Coventry Money Manager is ok - its not a current account....

    By Feb 10th 2010 my searches will drop to less than 50 - yipee! I have 126 between Dec 2008 - Feb 2009 (shocker eh!)
    :o 2010 - year of the troll :o

    Niddy - Over & Out :wave:
  • I need a new bank account - although the Coventry Money Manager is ok - its not a current account....

    By Feb 10th 2010 my searches will drop to less than 50 - yipee! I have 126 between Dec 2008 - Feb 2009 (shocker eh!)
    Imagine if you coudn't get an account tho!

    Have to ask wrk to pay you via cheque lol!
    Bank Accounts - Barlcays Premier[/B] - £1000 o/d, HSBC - £200 o/d- First Direct - £500
    Credit Cards - Barclaycard £2000 - Silver Card £1300 - Flybe £7500 - HSBC £1000 - First Direct £2500 First Direct Gold £3000
    6 credit accounts closed in 2010!

    Official SOS Club number 001 - Dry until 01.07.10
  • TBH my N-Hunter should be flagging as I have deffo had some inconsitancies however my OH has had similar and has caused her no issues.

    My main discrepancy is time at address - I had a temp address, that is showing on my report that I always fail to disclose..... This is because I have had my current address for 11years however if I included the additional address I would only be there for 6 months as I moved out then back in.

    Sorry for any spelling or gramatical errors ( using iphone )

    Mate N Hunter will not pick up regular patterns of same data - only irregular patterns (such as a blind guess by a fraudster)..... any flag will show 'applicant refer' but even so that alone will not decline you, it would make the lender study you before saying yes/no.

    iPhone - flash sod! I thought you said you got the HTC? Or is iPhone the old phone? Wanna sell it mate :rotfl:
    :o 2010 - year of the troll :o

    Niddy - Over & Out :wave:
  • Imagine if you coudn't get an account tho!

    Have to ask wrk to pay you via cheque lol!

    Nah mate cos the coventry account is like a full account and even has a debit card lol...... but I do think its time to leave HSBC :mad:

    Their top dog in fraud want's to meet me :eek: :eek:

    No thanks! :p
    :o 2010 - year of the troll :o

    Niddy - Over & Out :wave:
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