going on holiday while seeking jsa

Jomo

timmmers wrote: »

No they don't..and you couldn't anyway as there are no jobs around. You have to provide proof of less than a dozen steps you took to find work...which is a tiny part of what you'd be doing if you prefer to choose what you eat and not spend a week out of every 2 with no food.

I also live where the OP does, and I bet he has already applied for all jobs there are here. I have even been offered a job to apply for in Germany by the JC here.
They seemed to think I should be interested until I pointed out that I don't speak German and it said that was important...and also that they killed my grandad and had a really good attempt at my dad too :rolleyes:

t

That old chestnut :rolleyes:

timmmers

Jomo
Donnas post said absolutely nothing about JSA..she said SHE would judge people by that cruteria.

As for my post that you comment on...elaborate smartass, what the hell is the old chastnut part?

I wouldn't wish unemployment on anyone usually...but you could really use a spell of six months struggling to regain your life and survive...it may help you reclaim your humanity and make you think twice before spouting garbage about things you know nothing at all about.

t

ceridwen

I shall follow this with interest - as I always understood that even those on the Dole are allowed (wow! wait for it!) - a ration of two weeks holiday per year.

MY job is as precarious as ever - and I have got a holiday in the offing - booked/paid for and I'm going on it come hell or high water...and I intend that, if I find I am unemployed by the time it comes up, that the time my holiday takes is going to come from that "2 weeks ration" in the year.

ceridwen

comradeguevara wrote: »

what if you were in GB but gettin back up north from london, say, your car broke down on the M1. fact of the matter is, its all hypotheticals. its clearly an issue for the courts to decide on the interpretation of the law. i was hoping for some precedent cases. looks like mine may have to be the first.

Wishing you luck with this.

ceridwen

donnajunkie wrote: »

lol. no i am being very careful. i dont want to get reported again by the prim and proper brigade. people here are wondering how unemployed people afford to go abroad. from my experience this is how alot of people do it. i clearly acknowledge it is technically illegal and i am not advising people to do it. so i have not done anything wrong by mentioning what some people do.
by the way incase anyone is wondering i have never done it. my fellwalking trips are very cheap. i stay at youth hostels and i get there for free as i qualify for a bus pass.

Well...if you qualify for a bus pass - then I guess that makes you 60 or more years old?? - in which case....and I'm being helpful here honest:D - I'm not quite sure why you arent classified as retired - rather than unemployed?

ceridwen

Kay_Peel wrote: »

Comradeguevara, you miss the point.

These are the people who hear appeals and review decisions. It is a quasi-judicial function for which they have access to legal advice, if they are not lawyers themselves. They wrote the Guidance notes for JSA administrators and practioners. I was suggesting that if you feel that their Guidance Notes don't carry as much weight as a lay-person's interpretation of the legislation then you might be deluding yourself.

In my field, the Guidance Notes attached to particular legislation and directives carry considerable weight and assist judges in coming to a view about what the legislators intended. They carry EVEN MORE weight where they are published and accessible on line to the general public.

Because of the Freedom of Information Act, you can now access and read Guidance Notes. It might be an idea to have a look at them - you will be better prepared to argue the case with the local JSA person.

Any chance of a link please to these particular Guidance Notes?

Jomo

timmmers wrote: »

Jomo
Donnas post said absolutely nothing about JSA..she said SHE would judge people by that cruteria.

As for my post that you comment on...elaborate smartass, what the hell is the old chastnut part?

I wouldn't wish unemployment on anyone usually...but you could really use a spell of six months struggling to regain your life and survive...it may help you reclaim your humanity and make you think twice before spouting garbage about things you know nothing at all about.

t

I think you'll find that DonnaJ responded to a post that I had written as a response to your post:

Originally Posted by timmmers
Live on 64 quid a week for a while and pay for food, bills and travel to interviews clothes etc. Then come here being a smartass with zero idea what the hell it's like to lose a job and not be able to get another one.

People like you make me puke...lucky there are plenty of decent folk to compensate for what you lack.

t

A lot of people are also getting housing benefit, council tax reductions etc. along side JSA, I hate it when people underestimate what they actually get. It is like me deducting my monthly mortgage payments from my total monthly outgoings cost...

I have lost jobs in the past but I have to admit, I've always managed to find another one.

Oh, and the bold text...that old chestnut...haven't you heard that before?? :rotfl:

woody01

I don't mind at all if someone on JSA goes on holiday.

What i do mind is them still getting their benefits when they are NOT looking for work as they are not around.

I need a holiday aswell, but i am too busy at work, and paying the taxes so people that aren't CAN go on holiday.

woody01

donnajunkie wrote: »

do people have to spend time every single day applying for jobs. i can manage to do many applications in a few hours. i mean enough to be considered a weeks worth. so it is not unreasonable to have a short period away from it.

I think so yes!
I have to do my job all day, so you keep a roof over your head and feed your family so why not?

dmwrightuk

Jomo wrote: »

I doubt they do spend every living moment applying for jobs but the agreement is that they are available for work if claiming JSA.

No you dont have to apply for jobs every second of every day in your Job seekers agreement you agree to show you have been looking for work and are expected to show that you have done 3 things a week to look for work, so that 6 things every fortnight when you sign on.