going on holiday while seeking jsa

Kay_Peel

You ask whether the Guidance Notes can have more force than the actual legislation.

Let's just say that the Guidance Notes are written by:

Jobseekers Allowance & Decision Making Appeals Team
Level 4, Rockingham House, West Street, Sheffield S1 4ER

Perhaps you could find their phone number and ask them your question.

comradeguevara

Proc wrote: »

But this is the point; the law doesn't allow it. You say it's simple and you can just jump on a low-cost carrier? What if there's no flights? What if they get cancelled? What if you're in Australia? What if the flights are only weekly because it's a remote airport?

You also say that no one is going to be offered an interview/job in current climate. Reading these boards I can see literally hundreds of people who have been offered jobs in the last few weeks alone. With your "I deserve everything I'm so hard done by" attitude it's no wonder the offers aren't rolling in.

what if you were in GB but gettin back up north from london, say, your car broke down on the M1. fact of the matter is, its all hypotheticals. its clearly an issue for the courts to decide on the interpretation of the law. i was hoping for some precedent cases. looks like mine may have to be the first.

donnajunkie

Rikki wrote: »

The unemployed can afford to jump on a low cost carrier and return. We really are paying them too much. :rotfl:

alot of people use the social fund to pay for holidays.

dmg24

comradeguevara wrote: »

moreover, the law, as it stands, specifically allows it. irrespective of personal opinions, morals, ethics or otherwise. seems its ok to milk the system but try to do things by the book and its an uphill struggle. dont see why its ok to holiday in GB but not somewhere sunny and warm- its quite possible to jump on a low cost carrier and return within 24 or 48 hours these days. not that one is going to be offered an interview, let alone a job, in the current climate...!!!

The law is open to interpretation. Whilst the literal interpretation of your carefully selected words may support your view, the statute as a whole does not. You may wish to research the different rules of interpretation, as your current stance makes me assume you do not currently hold this knowledge.

By all means go ahead and test the DWP's interpretation of the law. I would like to see how far you get. :T

donnajunkie

comradeguevara wrote: »

seems thats the way forward. wait for them to pull me up on it then throw the book at them. its either deliberate lying to massage the unemployment figures or a serious training and interpretation of the law issue.

when you sign on next just ask them for a going away form. dont call it a holiday form. fill it in and then hand it in the next time you sign on.

dmg24

donnajunkie wrote: »

alot of people use the social fund to pay for holidays.

Are you spouting your fraudulent rubbish again donnajunkie?

comradeguevara

Rikki wrote: »

The unemployed can afford to jump on a low cost carrier and return. We really are paying them too much. :rotfl:

i think i mentioned about my savings from when i had a well paying professional career, which the dwp are aware of.

in any event, the regulations make no mention of having to return within 24 or 48 hrs in relation to chapter 3, paragraph 19 (p)

donnajunkie

comradeguevara wrote: »

what if you were in GB but gettin back up north from london, say, your car broke down on the M1. fact of the matter is, its all hypotheticals. its clearly an issue for the courts to decide on the interpretation of the law. i was hoping for some precedent cases. looks like mine may have to be the first.

when i had to fill in a form i gave the number of the place i was staying at. i asked how is that going to help you contact me quickly as i wont spend all day sat in my accomodation, i will be climbing some mountain. i also use public transport to get there. so you can imagine how long it would take me to get back.

Jomo

ariarnia wrote: »

It can be much cheaper to holiday outside the uk than in the uk when you take into account last minute flights and airline deals and the general high cost of living in the uk.

If you don't drive then it can be just as hard to get back from a holiday 100 miles away as 300...

But if you are 'actively seeking work' and continue to claim these things should be taken into consideration before you go on holiday!

Proc

I've always wondered how some people can spend so long on benefits and not get a job.

Now I've read this thread, my question has been answered.