debtors going without food.

mbga9pgf

When I think about Darwinism, I think how the Benefits system has turned natural selection on its head.

wageslave

mbga9pgf wrote: »

So, lets get this right, I get hit with 40% tax, whilst over a million britons are on 15K annually for sitting on their fat, chav, workshy @rses and you expect me to feel sorry for them?

I would rather send them across to Afghanistan as a expendable mine detector to protect our brave lads and lasses, who have actually gone out on a pittance, still pay their taxes in the Stan to fund said chavs than have them sat at home.

Its called Darwinism.

What a charmer you are:rolleyes:

We weren't discussing "fat workshy chavs". We were discussing ordinary people who have lost jobs, been hit by illness or had relationships break up. You never know, it could be you tomorrow.

As for sending anyone to Afghanistan as, and I quote, expendable mine detectors. I thought our government was already doing that.

I think they just call those expendable people soldiers in Whitehall.

EDIT ....and I am really going to worry about the opinion of someone whose defination of a chav is anyone who doesn't own a colander.....

the_ash_and_the_oak

mbga9pgf wrote: »

So, lets get this right, I get hit with 40% tax, whilst over a million britons are on 15K annually for sitting on their fat, chav, workshy @rses and you expect me to feel sorry for them?

I would rather send them across to Afghanistan as a expendable mine detector to protect our brave lads and lasses, who have actually gone out on a pittance, still pay their taxes in the Stan to fund said chavs than have them sat at home.

Its called Darwinism.

They are not paid to sit and do nothing. They are paid to reduce wage inflation and labour power

A_fiend_for_life

Perhaps the measure of civilization is how much it's weakest members reflect their farm animals.

A_fiend_for_life

It gets me that we throw out £12 billion of food while some of our own are starving. We seem to have the ability to spend on what we don't need and throw away what we do need. How do folk fool themselves into thinking spending makes you rich? Spending makes you poor. All those 'needs' are tomorrows needs.

My local council has just sent out some wonderful magazine highlighting their performance. It provides a summary of spending with £13 million (out of £200 million) spent on loans charges - the same amount as the Chief Executives Office and Corporate Services combined.

On the cover it has a picture of the food caddies we will have to pay for whether we need them or not, with perfectly edible food being scraped into a near full caddy.

Maybe the caddies should be calibrated to show the average annual costs up to various points say every 2 inches = £50 a year. The council have no interest in doing this since it will provide the most expensive electricity ever from incineration.

PasturesNew

mbga9pgf wrote: »

...limiting vat on fruit and veg to 15% and heavily taxing bangers, mash and mushy peas.

There is no VAT on basic foods. VAT is "value added tax" and is intended to apply to where value has been added. e.g. taking sausages and mash and cooking them and presenting them in a chilled ready meal.

If you stick to basic raw foods, there's no VAT.

Now, before somebody says it, I know there are some oddities in VAT, but you know that's 99% true.

If you buy a cauliflower for 80p (78p for Cornish ones in Mr T's last night I saw), then that's VAT free.

If you take the same cauliflower and it's chopped up and topped in cheese sauce, then split across 8 packs, each costing £1.50 apiece, it's now got VAT on it... and is a LOT more expensive to buy because you're paying for the factory, the labour, the transport and all the extra packaging.

My dad sometimes finds ready-mashed potato reduced to about 80p at his local CoOp and I go mad telling him that he could produce any flavoured potato he likes, at the drop of a hat, for 1/4 of the price (even though he bought it reduced), just by using 2 spuds from the sack of them he has in the garage.

PasturesNew

mbga9pgf wrote: »

I wonder how many chav scum have colanders? I am guessing not many.

What's a collander got to do with anything? You can live without them. If you're on about draining veg, then that's what the saucepan lid's for. If you're on about rinsing the peeled spuds, then again drop them into a saucepan of water while you're peeling them, then when you've finished just drain that first lot of water off.

I found somebody on the Old Fashioned board who works with some disadvantaged people and she seemed completely shocked when she said that "some of them don't even have a chopping board!!!!". I replied that neither do I. I've never needed one and I don't generally see the point of them when a plate will do and is smaller/easier to wash than a combersome chopping board.

PasturesNew

wageslave wrote: »

EDIT ....and I am really going to worry about the opinion of someone whose defination of a chav is anyone who doesn't own a colander.....

LOL ... I found this odd too.

I'm a chav then as I don't have a colander... I don't have room for one, nor use for one. I have had one in the past and will have one again in the future, but I need a bigger house first. I have other coping strategies. As for space, I bought a multi-pack of crisps last night and my kitchen is so small they're here beside me now as I've no room for them in the kitchen. A colander would just be more clutter.

PasturesNew

Stay_tonight_in_a_lie wrote: »

After reading this if ever i found myself alone and single god help me.

Why? Can't you live without a responsible adult keeping an eye on everything you do?

carolt

PasturesNew wrote: »

LOL ... I found this odd too.

I'm a chav then as I don't have a colander... I don't have room for one, nor use for one. I have had one in the past and will have one again in the future, but I need a bigger house first. I have other coping strategies. As for space, I bought a multi-pack of crisps last night and my kitchen is so small they're here beside me now as I've no room for them in the kitchen. A colander would just be more clutter.

On the positive side, when you fancy a pack of crisps, they're right at hand.