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margaretclare

Granny, if you use a stick, make sure you get it adjusted to the correct length - a specialist disabled shop will do this for you.

Tooooo many people use sticks which aren't adjusted and are too long for them.

Well, it's not Wednesday, but I've gone down to 75.2 kg today. I seemed to be stuck around 75.6 kg for weeks and weeks.

I discovered another place to go swimming and to take advantage of the Govt's free swimming initiative. I didn't think it applied - our local authority hasn't signed up to it because they have 'outsourced' the swimming and fitness centre to VirginActive, which is expensive. I was told that it's possible to go to a neighbouring authority and was very pleased to find out that yes, it's true, I went to a beautiful swim centre in the neighbouring LA area. It has a teaching pool which is shallower, much the best idea, and not just for mums and toddlers! http://www.creatingleisure.co.uk/centres/3/home/Belfairs-Swim-Centre.aspx

So, went on Thursday evening and my legs really ached from all the kicking. Friday I nearly didn't go to chair-based keep-fit at the retirement complex I go to, didn't feel up to it but I decided to push myself. Was in bed early last night and slept really well.

Granny, you may find you're able to do chair-based keep-fit. Try Leanne's chair workout:http://www.leanneschairworkout.com/

I'm seeing the orthopaedic consultant on Thursday because it's possible/probable/likely that my R hip may need a revision of hip replacement. The replacement was done in October 1987 and it has lasted pretty well. I need to keep my leg muscles strong - well, the chair-based keep fit has certainly done that.

We're going to the pool on Sunday afternoon to the disabled swimming group. DH was such a brilliant swimmer all his life and lately, with the 4th knee replacement of the same knee between 2003 and 2009, he's scared of kicking instinctively and damaging it beyond further repair. The next stop for him would be leg amputation, and we don't want that.

sarymclary

Granny




At least you do now have a diagnosis, and despite having to use the stick, it will only be for a certain amount of time.

Have a lovely day, and take care.

victory

sary the cake looks lovely, glad you all had a fab time:D

gs good news but I can sense your frustration at not being able to do what you normally do, this week with the arthritis it has been a nightmare , walking, trying to wash my hair, the usual taken for granted things are so chronically painful it reduces me to tears but the docs all say the same, rest, rest and more rest and gets better with meds and later on in the day past lunchtime it eases to bearable, I am my own worst enemy because with the house, two kids and lots to do I do not rest and should, please make sure you heed what the docs say, they have your best interest at heart and rest it, it will reep the rewards in the end and the recovery will be faster:D

So, here is the latest tale chez victory.... OH comes home late again from work, heats up his dinner in the microwave and comes in with his dinner, tray ,coffee and a gold foiled medium sized milk chocolate easter egg, I sit next to him, after 3 years and 3 months on this diet, with this chat room, you would think I would learn something, I know factually I cannot diabetic wise eat a whole egg, the sugars would have me in hospital, I know I don't want my diabetic numbers to increase, to feel bad, to not have the feelings in my legs with the sugar rush, common sense should prevail, so the egg makes me uncomfortable, looking at it, makes me nervous and I start pinching my nose, rubbing my hands, talking in a loud nervous tone, OH chomps away and so I blurt it out, the whole thing, how I should have control, how I know how to not have it all in the house, that I should have learnt by now to eat 2 slices of toast and not have to go back into the kitchen for more and then sneakily more when no one is looking, how once I start I can't have a well managed stop button because it sends me on a binge if I allow it to start in the first place, that OH goes from one breakfast to dinner if he cannot find the time to eat lunch at work and has no problems, that he has never been a greedy pig and can have a galaxy bar and just have a few pieces and put it back in the fridge.

OH starts to say just have 2, I can the kids can, you can too, you are addicted like an alcoholic is,that I am acting out severe withdrawal symptons like an alcoholic would,that I am a food aholic,that I have an addictive personality, how can I be when from one week to the next nothing but nothing bad ever passes my lips but when it doesit all goes OTT and wrong, more never seems enough. So, I end up in the kitchen gulping with sobs that I blurted out my heart and he does not understand one single word I said, loneliness engulfs me and I tell him to "£$$%^%^&&*&** off , he retreats to the living room and I sob some more with no solution.

Why is is a grown intelligent woman that is life savvy and knows about carbs,fats,sugars,calories, good and bad foods, portion sizes, how to loose weight, how to control the diabetes with the foods,what to eat, when to eat cannot be around a milk chocolate easter egg without freaking out? Or white bread? Or bacon? Or pork crackling?

I read this book writen by an american that said trigger foods have to be controlled in the brain, his was bread basket at restaurants, so before it came, before he was in a situation he felt he would not be able to control he would say loudly to himself or others at the table, 'no thank you, I do not need/want this bread, please take it away' they would and he was fine with the rest of the meal.

I say no so often, of course I do otherwise I would not have lost 7 1/2 stone but still have no control?

OH, the kids ,they all eat happily, enjoy and never go around in darkness chomping away,they eat what is given to them, enjoy the treats, they know easter is coming up and are looking forward to their eggs but don't think about them, dream about them, talk about them, miss them, wish the days away, they look forward to their next meal and carry on life without a slice of bread talking to them from the kitchen, I want to be like that and have never been able to be calm.

The books I have read, the internet sites, the reasoning, the understanding, the logic, the reality all of it makes sense to me and I devour all the information, excitedly thinking this is it, this will cure me, make me behave like a proper person, this snippet of information was writen for me and is going to be the solution.

Turns out way past middle age and I have still no control, no peace, no solution.

victory

:bdaycake::bdaycake::bdaycake::bdaycake::bdaycake::bdaycake::bdaycake:

gs happy happy birthday, I hope today brings you all you have ever wanted and much more:D:D:D:D

beanielou

Thanks for the links Margaret Clare.

margaretclare

There are so many things which we cannot explain by using the 'rational' part of our brain. Food, now, that is such a very basic thing that we are programmed for, hard-wired you might say, by evolution. Survival is another, and that's a problem that I grapple with every time I go to a swimming pool. I KNOW that it's impossible for a grown woman to drown in 3 feet of water, but I still get scared, still cannot cope with it, still can't seem to learn to swim properly.

If eating what we know is good for us, and avoiding what we know is bad, was all that easy then we'd all be shapely and sylph-like. Unfortunately there are too many people around who come up with simplistic solutions like 'eat less, move more'. That's it? Nothing else? There's no other explanation? Well, there must be. Otherwise I should be losing weight steadily and showing a straight downward line on a graph. It isn't the case, and I sympathise, Victory.

Eric_Pisch

sarymclary wrote: »

Aww Eric, sounds like you've really been missing SWMBO. Where has she gone, and is it for work (I missed that bit maybe?).

Malta with her mum (84), MIL has been down since her husband of 60 years died last year (93) and MIL almost lost sight in her left eye when the pressure went up to 50 a couple of weeks ago because the consultant filled a letter 6 months ago instead of posting it saying you need to come in ASAP for treatment ...


Granny

Eric_Pisch

margaretclare wrote: »

There are so many things which we cannot explain by using the 'rational' part of our brain. Food, now, that is such a very basic thing that we are programmed for, hard-wired you might say, by evolution. Survival is another, and that's a problem that I grapple with every time I go to a swimming pool. I KNOW that it's impossible for a grown woman to drown in 3 feet of water, but I still get scared, still cannot cope with it, still can't seem to learn to swim properly.

If eating what we know is good for us, and avoiding what we know is bad, was all that easy then we'd all be shapely and sylph-like. Unfortunately there are too many people around who come up with simplistic solutions like 'eat less, move more'. That's it? Nothing else? There's no other explanation? Well, there must be. Otherwise I should be losing weight steadily and showing a straight downward line on a graph. It isn't the case, and I sympathise, Victory.

fear is never logical but the affect is very real

two best ways to get around it are by mass exposure to desensitise you or distraction, distraction is less stressful, you need someway to take your focus of what your doing talking

regardless of what any diet says its basic physics cals in must be less than cals used, the trick is the frame of mind you are in and finding a "system" you can follow and stick to.

Why are we all not slim? Because we are not evolved to live in an environment where we are surrounded by literally millions of calories everywhere we go. To ensure we eat enough calories our brains evolved the ability to get us high by releasing hormones from the pleasure centre, it does this as a response to eating certain foods (high fat and or high sugar) which gives us our cravings (plus some other foods like cheese and chocolate can stimulate similar responses). Our brains are literally working against us.

There also seams to be some sort of internal clock where the body gauges the weight we should be, it appears for some people (me) this is getting screwed up, and we are binging like crazy, possibly from eating artifical crap. In the USA there was an inquiry into why the cola companies use so much caffeine in there products, they claimed it was for taste, yet double blind testing showed no one could tell if it a drink was caffeinated or not. They concluded it was put in because of the potentially addictive properties of caffeine. SWMBO herself admits shes addicted to pepsi max but she wouldn't drink at all in the evenings so its the best of two evils.

the hardest part is working out what our metabolic rates are, we are all different yet we work mainly on vastly inaccurate averages for BMI and cal intake, making it difficult to adjust intake to what you actually need, its taken me a month to work out that i need 1600-1700 cals a day min to avoid starvation mode

victory

It has been clearly tested many times that KFC, MAC's, etc they add in extra ingredients to make you want more to become addicted to them, salty foods make you eat more, we had a KFC the other week and we all agreed we hated it,even my kids struggled with it, far too greasy, salty and yuck looking around us this may sound awful but there were very few people eating the KFC that shall we say were less than large? I know all the fast food joints like pizza hut,dominos etc should and are avoided like they have some kind of plague:rotfl:eat as much as you like chinese buffet was my all time favourite but now if we have it is a take away and that is a rarety I do not frequent those establishments anymore because my brain does know how I got into this state and that they are not compatible with a healthy energetic life style, those kinds of foods make you feel lethargic, hungry again after 20 mins and just yuck with all the grease and badness that comes with it.

I don't miss the feeling of being over stuffed on nothing but rubbish and stodge.

I miss being calm when an unexpected easter egg is in my living room;)

Eric_Pisch

victory wrote: »

It has been clearly tested many times that KFC, MAC's, etc they add in extra ingredients to make you want more to become addicted to them, salty foods make you eat more, we had a KFC the other week and we all agreed we hated it,even my kids struggled with it, far too greasy, salty and yuck looking around us this may sound awful but there were very few people eating the KFC that shall we say were less than large? I know all the fast food joints like pizza hut,dominos etc should and are avoided like they have some kind of plague:rotfl:eat as much as you like chinese buffet was my all time favourite but now if we have it is a take away and that is a rarety I do not frequent those establishments anymore because my brain does know how I got into this state and that they are not compatible with a healthy energetic life style, those kinds of foods make you feel lethargic, hungry again after 20 mins and just yuck with all the grease and badness that comes with it.

I don't miss the feeling of being over stuffed on nothing but rubbish and stodge.

I miss being calm when an unexpected easter egg is in my living room;)

Amen

Yeah that was the first that went I after I detoxed and I never want it back again, that feeling of just being !!!!!! and just wanting to sit and do sod all like a giant super sized sack of crap.

I went for a run this morning, been doing house work, and finalised my display cabinets this morning, pretty much not stopped, going to sainsburys in a min to get a steak for tea