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  • flea72
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    Perhaps having the second child wasn't such a good idea if the "stupid system" isn't keeping you in the manner that you would like!

    its not a case of not being kept in the manner you would like

    most people look back to their own childhood, and see that it was possible for just one parent to work, to have an ok existence. unfortunately, those days are long gone, and it comes as a shock to alot of people that they dont get much help from the benefits system, when all they see and hear in the press, is about the amounts people claim once having kids

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  • chesky369
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    I went back to work when my son was three months old. I was healthy and able to get a job so I did so, rather than resort to claiming benefits - rather stand on my own two feet than have hand-outs.
  • flea72
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    edited 23 October 2009 at 7:09PM
    chesky369 wrote: »
    I went back to work when my son was three months old. I was healthy and able to get a job so I did so, rather than resort to claiming benefits - rather stand on my own two feet than have hand-outs.

    so you hav gone back to work, and not bothered claiming anything you are entitled to?

    or are you in a career that pays enough, for you to be above any benefit limits?
  • Oldernotwiser
    Oldernotwiser Posts: 37,425 Forumite
    flea72 wrote: »
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    no-one would go out to work, if it meant they had less money coming in, than when they stayed at home


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    Of course they would!

    People work for all sorts of reasons, not just financial benefits. People work because they've got too much pride to go on benefits, because they don't want to put their career on hold or simply for personal fulfillment.
  • DX2
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    chesky369 wrote: »
    I went back to work when my son was three months old. I was healthy and able to get a job so I did so, rather than resort to claiming benefits - rather stand on my own two feet than have hand-outs.
    Did they have much benefits in your day chesky ;):p
    *SIGH*
    :D
  • DX2
    DX2 Posts: 8,275 Forumite
    flea72 wrote: »
    so you hav gone back to work, and not bothered claiming anything you are entitled to?

    or are you in a career that pays enough, for you to be above any benefit limits?
    I think the only thing chesky claims these days is her pension ;)
    *SIGH*
    :D
  • flea72 wrote: »
    as for there being lots of weekend/evenings jobs around. i dont know of any homes near me that take unqualified nursing staff (other than daytime cleaners/kitchen staff).
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    How do you mean that the homes dont take unqualified staff? Nursing and residential homes are mainly run by unqualified staff. A nursing home will only usually have one nurse on duty with the rest being carers, that you dont actually need qualifications for...just an ability to look after people(hopefully). Residential homes have no qualified staff, its all 'on the job' although obviously you need to go on to do NVQ's to get to be senior carer.

    They have a huge turnover of staff with only the devout dedicated few that stay for the long term.

    I visit homes and its always different staff every time we visit, they are always looking for staff....maybe just in my area but find it difficult to see how its different in different parts of the country.

    Also, in my sisters case, with regards to the paper rounds, they are mainly adults who take on rounds and she is crying out for more people. She has found in her experience that its the kids who dump papers or who last a couple of weeks. There is one chap who I see constantly most of the week delivering papers....ipod on, strutting up the street...lol. He has done it for years so cant be that bad.

    Agree with you about the pubs. Its generally younger people, but depends what kind of bar it is. Places like golf clubs and working mens clubs prefer older staff. I dont know how old the OP's wife is so it was just a possible suggestion for her.
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  • flea72
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    Of course they would!

    People work for all sorts of reasons, not just financial benefits. People work because they've got too much pride to go on benefits, because they don't want to put their career on hold or simply for personal fulfillment.

    if working meant you couldnt put food on the table, then no you wouldnt do it

    people who have the luxury of being to have the choices you suggest, are not financially reliant on work, they have income from elsewhere

    tbh if someone would rather live below the breadline, than take the money that is rightfully theirs, then more fool them - cutting your nose off to spite your face, doesnt keep a roof over your head, food in your belly, and a smile on your face

    so tell me, if they dont earn enough to live on, how do they survive?
  • flea72
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    notlongnow wrote: »
    How do you mean that the homes dont take unqualified staff? Nursing and residential homes are mainly run by unqualified staff. A nursing home will only usually have one nurse on duty with the rest being carers, that you dont actually need qualifications for...just an ability to look after people(hopefully). Residential homes have no qualified staff, its all 'on the job' although obviously you need to go on to do NVQ's to get to be senior carer

    there are no residential homes near me, that have overnight staff that arent at least trained to NVQ level II standard - yes, daytime staff, two a penny, with attitude/personality being the main requisite, rather than a piece of paper, but night-time its a different matter
  • Torry_Quine
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    notlongnow wrote: »
    How do you mean that the homes dont take unqualified staff? Nursing and residential homes are mainly run by unqualified staff. A nursing home will only usually have one nurse on duty with the rest being carers, that you dont actually need qualifications for...just an ability to look after people(hopefully). Residential homes have no qualified staff, its all 'on the job' although obviously you need to go on to do NVQ's to get to be senior carer.

    They have a huge turnover of staff with only the devout dedicated few that stay for the long term.

    I visit homes and its always different staff every time we visit, they are always looking for staff....maybe just in my area but find it difficult to see how its different in different parts of the country.
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    Actually many care staff have SVQ level two or even three in this area in all types of care homes and that's not just senior staff but care workers at all levels. In the very near future all staff will need to be qualified which in my view is correct as it is not as easy a job as many think! While some staff don't stay long many do make it their life career and stay many years.
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