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can they force us to do overtime
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a- it is a GOOD manager who spots a fake sickie - that's what they are there for
b - it's not prim and proper to lie and skive
c - if I didn't care about people losing their jobs, I'd suggest pulling a 2 day fake sickie.
a - do these managers have magic powers enabling them to read your mind? even if england were playing in the world cup final and you were off. they cant do anything without proof even though they would know theres a good chance you are skiving to watch england. you can only hold time off against someone when it becomes regular.
b - yes i know. it doesnt warrant a death sentence either.
c - ok i will let you off with that one even though its another dig at me.0 -
broxiebear1 wrote: »where i work im a tyre fitter do 47 hrs a week do 24hr standby which i dont get paid for only get call out money if i get called out work most lunch breaks depends on how busy i am , well i was off sick for one day last year first day off in two years and they docked pay . went to doctors got docked 2 hrs pay so i said enough they were doing a free tyre check at a local supermarket one sat. till 4 pm we stop at 1 pm i told them i wasnt doing it as i do enough for them all thee rest of the sheep done it except me .
they seem to take you for granted . forgot to say they were only going to pay time . overtime is voluntray.
while i a am on your side and agree largely. i'm afraid if you are off sick it is normal to not get paid for that time. its only the very good companies that still pay people when they are off sick.0 -
Donnajunkie it is pointless talking to you, you are in a mindset that wont change, one day you may grow up.Blackpool_Saver is female, and does not live in Blackpool0
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The behaviour Donna is advocating WILL be noticed, and WILL effect your employment in one way or another, it may not be disciplinary/dismissal straight away....
It's not what your company knows or can prove that is what determines how you are treated at work, how far you will go in the company, and how long your job will last.
If they can't prove it, it will take them just a bit longer to get rid of you, but they will make your life harder while you are there.0 -
donnajunkie wrote: »a - do these managers have magic powers enabling them to read your mind? even if england were playing in the world cup final and you were off. they cant do anything without proof even though they would know theres a good chance you are skiving to watch england. you can only hold time off against someone when it becomes regular.
b - yes i know. it doesnt warrant a death sentence either.
c - ok i will let you off with that one even though its another dig at me.
1 - no magic powers - we just have the usual eyes, ears, stats, intuition etc
2 - I've not had a dig at you - I quite clearly stated that the advice you gave was wrong. Unlike your attempts to insult me which I can happily rise above as they are at the level of a 12 year old.0 -
donnajunkie wrote: »i largely agree with this.
one thing we havent considered is what if the training over runs. i believe the law requires a break of at least 15 minutes every 4 hours. even if that is wrong if the training over runs when are they supposed to eat their lunch?
The law requires a 20 min unpaid break in a shift that is 6 hours or more.
They will be getting 20 mins of a normal 40 min break, so in no way could this break the law."On behalf of teachers, I'd like to dedicate this award to Michael Gove and I mean dedicate in the Anglo Saxon sense which means insert roughly into the anus of." My hero, Mr Steer.0 -
terra_ferma wrote: »The behaviour Donna is advocating WILL be noticed, and WILL effect your employment in one way or another, it may not be disciplinary/dismissal straight away....
It's not what your company knows or can prove that is what determines how you are treated at work, how far you will go in the company, and how long your job will last.
If they can't prove it, it will take them just a bit longer to get rid of you, but they will make your life harder while you are there.
i pray no-one is genuinely ill on the day then. assuming you are right i now advise if you happen to be ill on the day dont stay off still just go to work ill. that is of course if they were considering stay off work at all. i did say they should just put up with it.0 -
1 - no magic powers - we just have the usual eyes, ears, stats, intuition etc
2 - I've not had a dig at you - I quite clearly stated that the advice you gave was wrong. Unlike your attempts to insult me which I can happily rise above as they are at the level of a 12 year old.
if they are at home how do you see if they are ill or not. ears? you mean you can tell from their voice when they phone in? assuming that is true they can ask someone to phone for them. what stats? they are off sick for the first time in a long time. so how will the stats go against them.0 -
The law requires a 20 min unpaid break in a shift that is 6 hours or more.
They will be getting 20 mins of a normal 40 min break, so in no way could this break the law.
thanks. i was meaning if the training over ran. thats why fair or not it is silly idea to schedule training in a lunch break. i find it hard to believe training cant be worked into a normal day. it seems like greed. they have decided that paying someone £2.50 or whatever it is for 20 minutes extra is cheaper than training someone for 20 minutes in normal hours. pure greed.0 -
donnajunkie wrote: »no, i am saying that my observation that you never ever give a thanks or acknowledgement to anything anyone says who is generally has the opposite view to you within a discussion when they will on occasion give a thanks to you says alot. do you have an i'm always right attitude in everyday life?
Why would I (or anyone else for that matter) thank someone who holds the opposite views to those I do? I obviously believe my opinions to be right, or they wouldn't be my opinions, would they?0
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