Terrified by shouting, angry farmer .. what to do next?

foreign_correspondent

agree with adouglasmhor, in the court case about the woman who was killed by cows when dog walking a while ago, the judge advised people to keep dogs off lead.

Dogs can be 'under close control' whilst off lead! I just say 'walk with me' to my dog and she trots along at heel - it sounds as if the OPs dogs were under close control to me!

patchwork_cat

adouglasmhor wrote: »

Yes OP ignore your own experience and advice from experts including on the case of the vet killed by cattle, do what including the case this poster I have quoted refers to. Obviously having read about that in as much detail as they have this thread.

I have infact read more about the inquest of the vet that was killed recently than you have, as you are confusing the inquest of the vet Liz Crowsley in Yorkshire to which I referred with the inquest of Anita Hinchey in cardiff.

foreign_correspondent

patchwork_cat wrote: »

Can somebody please provide a link to Liz Crowsley's inquest that says that dogs should be off a lead when near cattle, have looked and can find no mention of it.

I just looked and couldn't spot it either (normally I would have posted a link in my response) - I heard it on Radio 4 yesterday!

foreign_correspondent

here you go:

Peter Davies, who owns the field, said the best way to deal with cows if they showed curiosity was to "shoo" them.
He also advised that when walking dogs through cattle, it was "vital" they were taken off their leads.
"Cows are docile, generally speaking. Put them with a dog and that's not always the case," he said.
"Cattle can behave in a different way if they feel the dog is a threat to them.
"It would be most unusual for a cow not to check you out in a fairly forceful fashion."
Recording her verdict, the coroner said: "The likelihood was the dog was off the lead and we've heard the dog should be off the lead when with cattle.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8320595.stm

and

Asked by Mary Hassall, the Cardiff Coroner, what advice he would give to dog walkers to avoid being trampled, he said: “If you’re walking your dog through sheep, it’s vital you put the dog on a lead. If you’re walking a dog through cattle, it’s absolutely vital you take your dog off the lead.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6885534.ece

patchwork_cat

It is not the vet Liz Crowsley's inquest that said to let dogs off the lead, which is the death I was referring to, but infact I have found Anita Hinchey's. For reference http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/cardiff-news/2009/10/22/dog-walker-trampled-to-death-by-cows-91466-24992484/

So adouglasmhor is actually the one confused as my post referred to Liz Crowsley and not Anita Hinchey. My reason for quoting Liz HInchey's death is that as a vet she would certainly have been aware of the dangers and the correct way to behave and yet she was killed and so for the OP's own benefit you can never accept that you are in no danger.

patchwork_cat

Cross post!!

adouglasmhor

patchwork_cat wrote: »

If this isn't contradicting yourself!!!

No contradiction, unlike you I seem to have no problem making personal choices and not forcing my choices on to others.
Seems you are not very good reading things are you?

adouglasmhor

Mely wrote: »

It takes a second to let a dog off a lead, and in this situation it could save your life! Especially where beef cattle are concerned:eek:

If you or anyone else can show video of anyone taking a dog of an ordinary lead in a second especially when a cow is charging at you I will back down.
But I am not holding my breath
This is my last post in this thread unless one of you can show this.

ChrisCobra

I wont read any further past "dog off lead" , lost my interest after that. Sorry.