Terrified by shouting, angry farmer .. what to do next?

mumslave

Up to the dog walker isnt it, if they have any respect for the animals grazing on the land they are walking through, they will keep the dog on a lead and run the much lower risk of bothering any animals in the first place. If they only want to think of themselves, fair enough, but you cant moan about angry farmers if thats the case. Well you can. But not everyone will say, yes you are entirely right and farmer bob has no excuse to be pished.

BilberryCharlotte

adouglasmhor wrote: »

Actualy it was a farming expert at the hearing for the vet who died who said to keep your dog of the lead. Also a public right of way is open to all and si part of the highways as much as the M8 motorway, so long as the dog is under control that is you complying with the rules. Farmers just cant make up their own rules.

Because you can does it always mean you should, or could common sense and consideration for others prevail?

Of course farmers can`t make up their own rules, but they must be entitled to compensation for any damages caused to their animals.

adouglasmhor

No one said they weren't, i don't know where that came from? Common sense is subjective so two people may have differing opinions on it.

BilberryCharlotte

adouglasmhor wrote: »

No one said they weren't, i don't know where that came from? Common sense is subjective so two people may have differing opinions on it.

I just got the feeling you had no time for farmers and that the general publics wishes should be paramount. I note you make no mention of consideration.

On the subject of differing opinions

Bull said he advised walkers not to let dogs off their leads when close to cattle. "What happens is the dog gets chased and it runs straight back to its owner with a cow in hot pursuit. And cows do not tend to attack singly. If you think of wildlife programmes, the matriarch comes forward with her infantry behind. To a person from town, that dog is part of the family so their first instinct is to rescue it, but the next minute they will have 750kg cows charging around them. It is a recipe for disaster."

The above was taken from a news item which I found on the internet.

adouglasmhor

I spent a lot of my youth on Farms, worked cattle and sheep, I don't know where you got that impression,

I get on well with most people I know When I say under control I mean at heel not just within shouting distance and I have never had a dog who could not manage that and if I got a dog that couldn't I would teach it and not take it into the country till it had learned how to.

patchwork_cat

adouglasmhor wrote: »

Yes OP ignore your own experience and advice from experts including on the case of the vet killed by cattle, do what including the case this poster I have quoted refers to. Obviously having read about that in as much detail as they have this thread.

Your response to my post makes absolutely no sense. Actually as I live in Yorkshire I have read about the vet that died in as much detail as the Yorkshire Post covered it and the local news.

BilberryCharlotte

adouglasmhor wrote: »

I spent a lot of my youth on Farms, worked cattle and sheep, I don't know where you got that impression,

I get on well with most people I know When I say under control I mean at heel not just within shouting distance and I have never had a dog who could not manage that and if I got a dog that couldn't I would teach it and not take it into the country till it had learned how to.

Just a feeling I got.

Your second paragraph brings me back to something I mentioned earlier in this thread Even given that your dog has been very well trained, it is my firm belief that a situation may occur where a dog is spooked or startled and may run away from you. This has actually happened to me, fortunately my dogs were on the lead and I managed to restrain them, it could have had a very unhappy ending otherwise.

Of course you may follow the example of the Household Cavalry etc and train your dogs to ignore every loud noise and remain impervious to just about every eventuality, in which case you have my undying admiration.

patchwork_cat

adouglasmhor wrote: »

You like so many other people have failed to read the thread's previous posts which show the law and the country code do not say this.

My personal choice is leads on near livestock but there is no legal obligation as long as the dogs are under control.

adouglasmhor wrote: »

Thanks - you are right about that I made a mistake about what you meant. Sorry.

I still say a well trained dog does not need to be on a lead. If it's running about jumping up on people, barking etc. and not walking to heel, it's not trained well enough and it should be on a lead at all times there are people or other animals about.

If this isn't contradicting yourself!!!

theluckiswithme

Idiophreak wrote: »

How well behave the dogs are is mainly irrelevant, tbh - the leash is as much about perception/public confidence as much as it is about actually controlling the animal.

As a runner that's frightened of dogs, I can tell you that just having the thing on the leash puts my mind at rest, for the most part - I've lost count of the times I've been chased by "playful" dogs, tripped up by "spirited" puppies or had my path blocked by a "good boy!".

I totally agree with this. I am also a runner who is scared of dogs and every time I go out I get them jumping at me and I hate it! I wish people would put their dog on a leash or at least hold them back when they pass me.

Mely

adouglasmhor wrote: »

So do you kneel down to let the dog of the lead as the cow charges or let it go risking it's lead becoming tangled somewhere and it getting caught by the cattle?

It takes a second to let a dog off a lead, and in this situation it could save your life! Especially where beef cattle are concerned:eek: