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DFW running club part 4!! ALL ARE WELCOME!!

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  • Errr .......... that's what I meant of course :rotfl::rotfl:
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  • i am an afternoony type im afraid..06.00 is night time.

    dont worry though simply, i will be slow.....
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  • catspaw
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    mmmmm take it 0500 is a bit early for people then......and there was me looking for someone to talk to:D

    Julie: I used to live in south wales valleys and abuse is something normal, as is being run off the road by chavs ( I learnt to hurdle quite well), having eggs/bottles thrown at me and being shot at (oh the wonders of South Wales)......any wity retorts are no good unless 1 sylable and rude as they don't understand much else:D
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  • Have just got back from an 8.38 mile run in the snow, (including running up Gaisby Lane Rich :eek:)
    Felt good though!
    ...Linda xx
    It's easy to give in to that negative voice that chants "cant do it" BUT we lift each other up.
    We dont count all the runners ahead of us & feel intimidated.
    Instead we look back proudly at our journey, our personal struggle & determination & remember that there are those that never even attempt to reach the starting line.
  • Rich are you and Becky interested in doing this?

    http://www.rodleyrun.co.uk/

    ...Linda xx
    It's easy to give in to that negative voice that chants "cant do it" BUT we lift each other up.
    We dont count all the runners ahead of us & feel intimidated.
    Instead we look back proudly at our journey, our personal struggle & determination & remember that there are those that never even attempt to reach the starting line.
  • RichOneday_2
    RichOneday_2 Posts: 4,403 Forumite
    edited 18 February 2010 at 8:48AM
    Have just got back from an 8.38 mile run in the snow, (including running up Gaisby Lane Rich :eek:)
    Felt good though!
    ...Linda xx

    It looks like you're taking your avvie a bit too literally, Linda!:rotfl:

    Its hilly enough round there, there really is no need to go and search out the BIGGEST hills you can find. Although going up to Wrose via Carr Lane, rather than Gaisby Lane, is probably even tougher. One for next week perhaps...?;)


    I see that this week's 'parkrunner of the week' states that one of his favourite things about parkrun is "...visiting and notching up another venue (the only parkrun table requiring no athletic ability whatsoever) , "

    That'll be why Becky and myself are joint 6th. We're good at things requiring 'no athletic ability whatsoever'.:p


    I also see that your rant email re Mr Elders was published, Becky! However, it was swamped by the hundreds of others coming out in unanimous support for the events.
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  • becky_rtw
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    Rich are you and Becky interested in doing this?

    http://www.rodleyrun.co.uk/

    ...Linda xx

    I dont do charity runs - sorry :o

    I disagree with the association between running and squeezing money out of your mates :cool:

    I also dont do fun runs - if I'm paying to race I want a time and a measured accurate course :o:o
  • becky_rtw
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    Not completely unanimous:
    Hello Paul

    I am a member of Low Fell Running Club and have been involved in distance running throughout my life from age of 12 years (still) as a competitive runner, but also involved in race organisation, marshalling, coaching (all ages and abilities from 8 years old up), volunteer work (even to the point of celeb ‘chaperone' for the occasional event), let alone work (a lot of it without charge) linked to my professional background (physiotherapy).

    Although I appreciate a level of frustration on some parts by individuals and thank you for your very balanced and measured response to the issues reported by the Northern Echo, I cannot accept the level of abuse that has been levelled at Alan personally and to LFRC. The accuracy of the report is highly contentious (there are some elements that Alan assures me he didn't state, and he certainly mentioned nothing about any affiliations or claims for representation), and as you will recognise there does seem to be some inconsistencies surrounding licensing arrangements with UK Athletics and Parkrun as opposed to other organisations organising events/races. Again, not sure how much this is within your control but there does seem to be some lack of clarity over Parkrun as an event or a race in terms of results being published. These issues are really quite useful to debate both in terms bringing people into the sport (for which you have done a magnificent job), but also to generate useful dialogue over some form of equity or agreement over differences when it comes to event/race organisation. It seems far from transparent at the moment. There are some of Alan's comments that should be explored for the benefit of the sport.

    Again, although I appreciate that you cannot account for any of the actions of Parkrun participants, it has been quite alarming at the level of abuse that has come through our club website. In 40 years of involvement of running I've seen plenty of politics and disagreement but always dealt with in a sociable manner – in this time I've never come across a runner that I didn't get on with or like (usually quite easy going individuals). Even at the Northern Echo site there are some responses (a couple of which I have complained about) that border on people totally out of control, for example a couple of reactions that seem to place a link of some shape or form between perceived social class and running. I have never come across this before – what has this got to do with running around a Park? Unfortunately if this is an example of a ‘new wave' of runners it's going to have me looking for the nearest exit.

    However, despite this, keep up the good work with Parkrun. Genuinely wishing continued success even if some participants probably need to ‘chill' a little – it's only running. I have been fortunate (when a lot younger admittedly) to run at international level but have always (like all other runners I have met) considered myself a fun runner. Do it because I enjoy it and would like others to enjoy it. Have no other agenda.

    Yours in running, take care

    John Stephens


    What a complete !!!! - your mate called for a boycott for goodness sakes and you are telling us to chill! *rolls eyes and gives him a quick slap*
  • RichOneday_2
    RichOneday_2 Posts: 4,403 Forumite
    edited 18 February 2010 at 10:18AM
    I think the key point, from what I have seen, is that his 'views' were roundly condemned by a large audience.

    There is a problem with people in general these days of interpreting a 'criticism of views' as 'personal abuse'. We've seen as much on this thread.

    Hardly anybody knows this Alan Elders so they are hardly dishing out personal abuse, they are criticising what he said.

    If, as claimed, his views were significantly misreported by the Northern Echo then he needs to clarify what he did mean.

    Did he, or did he not, call for a boycott of parkruns? If he did, then it is hardly surprising that he is going to receive a huge wave of criticism of his views. It doesnt affect his right to have those views but he has to accept the response.
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    Blackpool Marathon 11/4/2010 (Target=2:59:59) (6:52/mile)
    Abingdon Marathon 17/10/2010, (Target=2:48:57) (6:27/mile)
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    Racing Plans/Results - Post 3844 (page193)
  • becky_rtw
    becky_rtw Posts: 8,393 Forumite
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    RichOneday wrote: »
    I think the key point, from what I have seen, is that his 'views' were roundly condemned by a large audience.

    There is a problem with people in general these days of interpreting a 'criticism of views' as 'personal abuse'.

    Hardly anybody knows this Alan Elders so they are hardly dishing out personal abuse, they are criticising what he said.

    If, as claimed, his views were significantly misreported by the Northern Echo then he needs to clarify what he did mean.

    Did he, or did he not, call for a boycott of parkruns? If he did, then it is hardly surprising that he is going to receive a huge wave of criticism of his views. It doesnt affect his right to have those views but he has to accept the response.

    I know I haven't seen anyone suggesting violence against him for example - merely a load of people calling him an idiot for suggesting a boycott - how is that a personal attack. Its not - its just saying 'you obviously havent thought out your viewpoint very well and are clearly a bit dense'!

    I hate it when people says something and then moan that everyone is attacking them because nobody agrees - we're not attacking you we're attacking your viewpoint. Come back when you have grown up and and are not so jealous and can think out a logical form of criticism.
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