3 points and £60 fine for brake lights

goldspanners

6 pages and still non the wiser. :rotfl:

xocbc

Inactive wrote: »

To the best of my knowledge, a police officer cannot issue a prohibition notice and then allow you to continue driving the car.

Seek legal advice.

yes they can, PG9 prohibitions can be either immediate or delayed. Bulbs usually get delayed - this means you have to rectify the problem in the time allowed, usually 7 days, re-mot the vehicle and produce the new mot certificate at the Police station (or to VOSA in the case of buses or trucks)

dizzybuff

and surrendering your driving licence just means them making a copy of it and making sure everything is sorted . if it is they will not issue points or a fine .... alternativly you could make the two pieces of paper into an origarmi butterfly and hope it flys away xxx

vaporate

I wonder how many pages this thread will go lol :rotfl:

DaveF327

Gordon861 wrote: »

What they might have done is issued an FPN for :
CU10 Using a vehicle with defective brakes 3pts
but that is stretching the description of a defective brakes a bit far.
(http://www.licencecheck.co.uk/offense_codes.php)

I think (unless they did more checks) you should have been done for something like:
Lighting offences - Prosecutable:
Lamps, reflectors, rear markings not maintained <=== this one I think
Vehicle not fitted with specified obligatory lamps
Specified obligatory lamps not correctly fitted
(http://www.vauxhallownersnetwork.co.uk/showthread.php?t=173503)

None of those lighting offences are endorsable, just fineable.

That is exactly what I was thinking. If one or more (but not all) lamps were out, the FPN should have been a £30 non-endorsable or a rectification notice.

If every brake light was out, the closest offence I can think of which would justify an endorsable ticket would be the CU20: Causing or likely to cause danger by reason of use of unsuitable vehicle or using a vehicle with parts or accessories (excluding brakes, steering or tyres) in a dangerous condition. That would take a hell of a lot of proving by virtue of brake lights alone, taking into account traffic density at the time and sharpness of the accused's braking at the time amongst other things.

Again, it comes down to the offence code shown on the FPN. If it's only for failing to maintain stop lamps or "brake lights not functioning" or whatever you want to call it, I wouldn't send any licence for endorsement. I'd have the case heard by a court if only for the correct sentence to be passed.

I've often wondered how many police officers get their penalties mixed up when deciding which ticket to issue.

Paradigm

DaveF327 wrote: »

That is exactly what I was thinking. If one or more (but not all) lamps were out, the FPN should have been a £30 non-endorsable or a rectification notice.

If every brake light was out, the closest offence I can think of which would justify an endorsable ticket would be the CU20: Causing or likely to cause danger by reason of use of unsuitable vehicle or using a vehicle with parts or accessories (excluding brakes, steering or tyres) in a dangerous condition. That would take a hell of a lot of proving by virtue of brake lights alone, taking into account traffic density at the time and sharpness of the accused's braking at the time amongst other things.

Again, it comes down to the offence code shown on the FPN. If it's only for failing to maintain stop lamps or "brake lights not functioning" or whatever you want to call it, I wouldn't send any licence for endorsement. I'd have the case heard by a court if only for the correct sentence to be passed.

I've often wondered how many police officers get their penalties mixed up when deciding which ticket to issue.

DaveF327 you seem to be getting bogged down in the technicalities... for all we know his 2 bits of paper were a party invitation & a dry cleaning bill

To get any info out of this guy you need some form of medieval torture

In the meantime it's drifted into a "chat amongst yourseves" kinda thing.

RE: what you posted, I think your pretty much right... but I fear we have entered the twighlight zone.

Halloway

Jakg wrote: »

If you have a fancy and or expensive car, yes.

My car is neither.

Halloway

goldspanners wrote: »

6 pages and still non the wiser. :rotfl:

No, but you are much better informed.

Halloway

I think we should buy the OP a copy of this book:

http://www.amazon.com/What-Shall-Baby-Board-Book/dp/0439442664

dizzybuff

twnty two pages and counting (lol)