Yaris stop-start.

hewhoisnotintheknow

how could that replace a car, where would you put your kids/shopping/dogs etc

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hewhoisnotintheknow wrote: »

how could that replace a car, where would you put your kids/shopping/dogs etc

Same applies to a lot of sports cars surely...

It was invented by the " genius " Clive Sinclair that brought us all the very basic early computers, just shows intelligence isn't directly related to common sense.:rotfl:

AdrianHi

C5 was daft, too low to the ground, indeed not sensible.
Electric bikes with the latest light weight lithium ion batteries are extremely popular on the continent and growing fast in the UK market too.

I would still like to shake Sir Clive Sinclair by the hand and buy him a pint or 3. The Sinclair ZX Spectrum was relatively easy to learn to program which was the genesis of many peoples career in IT (including mine), an industry which the UK is very good at.

What was the question on this thread again :rotfl:

goldspanners

roddydogs wrote: »

As posted before they have much bigger batteries, and the starter is "pre engaged" so its not like when you start a normal car.

we use pre engaged already on most things,this isnt new. so whats so different?
how much bigger is the battery in yours or do you have 2 batteries operating a split charge system?

goldspanners

AdrianHi wrote: »

I'm perplexed by the negative attitude some are showing regarding this Stop-Start technology that they have never even tried in a car jumping to conclusions about reliability and extra weight that are simply unfounded.
Why should the battery be bigger and heavier?
It isn't, possibly it will have a shorter service life due to working harder but then your saving some cost in fuel so a worth while trade off. Electric motors can be run continueously for long periods so why should starting the engine more frequently wear it out?
I don't think it does but we would have to ask the engineers who design and test these systems to fidn out for sure, anything else is speculation.

For what it is worth you can disable the Stop-Start feature on a Mini though I think you might have to do it each time you start the car. Why you would want to disable something that saves fuel and has no impact what-so-ever on your driving of the vehicle is beyond me.

im quite happy with the 5 years so far of service life ive had from my battery and im sure i will get more.
if the car had been switching itself off every time i would have changed my battery at least twice by now. so when my original battery does pack in it means ive only broken down once with a dud battery rather than 3 times or maybe more.

a faulty battery as we know can cause many a silly fault on a car so i wouldnt be willing to trust a car with stop start and a dodgy battery and hope that the control system knows the battery is dodgey and knows not to switch it off.

we are really not saving very much fuel though are we? how much fuel will you need to save before breaking even after buying a new battery and starter motor more regularly than a car without stop start.

goldspanners

DKLS wrote: »

There is a set of traffic lights near me that leads on to the motorway slip road, I usually rev to 4K and drop the clutch to get past the numpties that like to join the M1 at 40mph.

from a standstill you would have no chance unless the stop start was disabled.

goldspanners

imagine the middle of winter, roads closed due to poor weather folk stranded on all our motorways so how do you keep warm? sit in your car with the foot on the clutch for hours to heat the car up?
it doesnt happen often, but we do get bad spells of weather causing folk to be stranded all night.

maybe i should design some kind of clutch pedal switch over ride system in the future?

jeannieblue

goldspanners wrote: »

imagine the middle of winter, roads closed due to poor weather folk stranded on all our motorways so how do you keep warm? sit in your car with the foot on the clutch for hours to heat the car up?
it doesnt happen often, but we do get bad spells of weather causing folk to be stranded all night.

maybe i should design some kind of clutch pedal switch over ride system in the future?

Buy an auto...

johnfarquhar74

goldspanners wrote: »

imagine the middle of winter, roads closed due to poor weather folk stranded on all our motorways so how do you keep warm? sit in your car with the foot on the clutch for hours to heat the car up?
it doesnt happen often, but we do get bad spells of weather causing folk to be stranded all night.

maybe i should design some kind of clutch pedal switch over ride system in the future?

You don't have too depress clutch or anything daft like that. You use the car exactly the same way you would a non stop/start model. If the car is happy, it will switch off the engine when not required, if the car is ready to move, or there is a high load on the battery(heaters, AC etc) then the engine starts.
As has been intimated earlier, it looks like Brussels wants this on all new cars in the not too distant future so I have faith that by then, all gremlins will have been ironed out, that's if there are any at all!

goldspanners

johnfarquhar74 wrote: »

You don't have too depress clutch or anything daft like that. You use the car exactly the same way you would a non stop/start model. If the car is happy, it will switch off the engine when not required, if the car is ready to move, or there is a high load on the battery(heaters, AC etc) then the engine starts.
As has been intimated earlier, it looks like Brussels wants this on all new cars in the not too distant future so I have faith that by then, all gremlins will have been ironed out, that's if there are any at all!

im glad you have faith. but i doubt it will save much in the way of fuel or the overall cost of running a car.