Yaris stop-start.

Money_Grabber13579

As long as you stay in the car it won't, but if you get out of the car at all, then it is an offense.

goldspanners

Money_Grabber13579 wrote: »

As long as you say in the car it won't, but if you get out of the car at all, then it is an offense.

so what your saying is sit inside the car waiting for the engine to heat up so the hot air clears the ice from the window rather than speeding up the process by running the engine and getting out to scrape the window is better then?

what i was trying to say earlier is that by running the engine and getting out to scrape the ice from the window (not running off to the local shop or ATM) will not get you a ticket, i know you keep saying its an offence but no officer in thier right mind would ticket you for scrapping your windows with the engine running.

Money_Grabber13579

goldspanners wrote: »

so what your saying is sit inside the car waiting for the engine to heat up so the hot air clears the ice from the window rather than speeding up the process by running the engine and getting out to scrape the window is better then?

what i was trying to say earlier is that by running the engine and getting out to scrape the ice from the window (not running off to the local shop or ATM) will not get you a ticket, i know you keep saying its an offence but no officer in thier right mind would ticket you for scrapping your windows with the engine running.

It might not get you a ticket, but it will definitely invalidate your insurance. Even if you're standing right beside the car and someone dashes up and nicks it, you weren't in control of the car, so they won't pay out.

I imagine they probably would have the right to give you a ticket as well, but probably not many policemen would! I know over here it's an offence to even leave your car unlocked - don't know about the other parts of the UK though.

goldspanners

Money_Grabber13579 wrote: »

It might not get you a ticket, but it will definitely invalidate your insurance. Even if you're standing right beside the car and someone dashes up and nicks it, you weren't in control of the car, so they won't pay out.

I imagine they probably would have the right to give you a ticket as well, but probably not many policemen would! I know over here it's an offence to even leave your car unlocked - don't know about the other parts of the UK though.

they do have the right but i very much doubt any officer would. i know they can be stupid and lack some common sense at times but i dont think any would ticket for this.

i used to do it every winter morning and night (until i got a heated screen)

Money_Grabber13579

goldspanners wrote: »

they do have the right but i very much doubt any officer would. i know they can be stupid and lack some common sense at times but i dont think any would ticket for this.

i used to do it every winter morning and night (until i got a heated screen)

Probably wouldn't even notice anyway! It's just more of a problem from the insurance point of view.

jeannieblue

I should know the answer to this considering where I work - but I don't! I can find out tomorrow tho if anyone has any patience.....

Re heated windscreen in a Yaris - no, still patented to Fords only at the moment, tho some Mini's do have them - not sure how...

If anyone tried to nick my car or invalidate my insurance whilst I scraped ice off of my car (not windscreen or rear screen as heated, but side windows) - I would sue them because it is a totally ridiculous law for one, and they wouldn't nick it as Jim the Dog would bite them in a very savage way in a very nasty part of their anatomy.... :eek:

sebdangerfield

The offence is called quitting,

Regulation 107 of the Road Vehicles (Con and Use) Regs 1986 creates an offence of leaving a motor vehicle unattended without switching off the engine and applying the parking brake.

107(1) No person shall leave, or cause or permit to be left, on a road a motor vehicle which is not attended by a person licensed to drive it unless the engine is stopped and any parking brake with which the vehicle is required to be equipped is effectively set, unless exempted by paragraph (2).

(2) The requirement specified in paragraph (1) as to the stopping of the engine shall not apply in respect of a vehicle: (a) being used for ambulance, fire brigade or in England fire and rescue authority or police purposes; or(b) in such a position and condition as not to be likely to endanger any person or property and engaged in an operation which requires its engine to be used to:(i) drive machinery forming part of, or mounted on, the vehicle and used for purposes other than driving the vehicle; or(ii) maintain the electrical power of the batteries of the vehicle at a level required for driving that machinery or apparatus.

It has been upheld that quitting does not include getting out and scraping ice or any other time where the driver, or someone who can be legaly in charge is near the vehicle and able to react should anything happen.

Thankfully common sense usually prevails, saying that, I'm aware of a guy reported for quitting who had the auto warm function on his merc that starts the car at a pre designated time without the driver and without opening the time. It was quashed at court.

roddydogs

Inactive wrote: »

Well I wouldn't buy a car with that feature, fuel saving or not, it would drive me up the wall.

Then you just overide it with the "Eco" switch!

AdrianHi

Inactive wrote: »

Well I wouldn't buy a car with that feature, fuel saving or not, it would drive me up the wall.

You should give it a chance and try it before dismissing it. You may not be able to avoid this feature on a car not long from now.
I had a Mini loan car for a day with this feature, it was a bit disconcerting to begin with but dipping the clutch causes the engine to restart and it's ready to go by the time you've engaged a gear. It really is seemless and smooth in operation.

It is proven to save fuel "on average" and the whole cars electrical system is designed for it.

Inactive

AdrianHi wrote: »

It is proven to save fuel "on average" and the whole cars electrical system is designed for it.

It may well save a drop of fuel, however there is more weight to cart around, and more to go wrong.

I like to know that I have control over a car, not the other way round.

Surely better planning of journeys is the answer to fuel saving, together with a relaxed driving style.