Effects of recession?

Davesnave

treliac wrote: »

If so, that's truly shocking. Due, in part IMO, to our loosening of social and moral barriers and taboos. The unnacceptable gradually becoming acceptable. It paints an even bleaker picture of the future if ways are not found of addressing society's problems.

I'm talking mainly about young ladies I've known well. (Young men rarely confide anything like this to other men!) As I don't really know many 'young' ladies now, I'm talking about many, many years ago, back in the 60s and 70s. I do know of a couple of instances reported more openly by older females in more recent years too, possibly because they feel more distant from the event now.

I had one dodgy experience as a child, which I never reported to anyone. Nothing happened, because I ran away. I can't say I feel that distant from it though; it stays with you. As a child, you blame yourself over & over, thinking there must be something 'odd' about you that attracts !!!!!philes. That's when the damage is done. No amount of rationalising in later life makes much difference.

The 1:3 quote I heard was on the radio fairly recently.. Now I have done some digging, I find it's not quite the same thing, but still disturbing enough:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/sep/01/teenage-sexual-abuse-nspcc-report

ETA: Seems like the filter on MSE has a 'problem' here too!

kennyboy66_2

Generali wrote: »

Remember the paediatrician that was chased out of her home by a mob?

Except that she was never chased out of her home by a mob.

Some kids sprayed painted "pae do" on her front door.
No doubt moronic and very upsetting, but the apocryphal reporting since has made it seem like it was a mass of locals with pitchforks and torches.

Some stories are just too good to be true, but end up with a life of their own.

Is Oz really that much different ?
Not in attitudes from what I have seen, although at least the government does not bring as much pointless legislation in.

Generali

kennyboy66 wrote: »

Except that she was never chased out of her home by a mob.

Some kids sprayed painted "pae do" on her front door.
No doubt moronic and very upsetting, but the apocryphal reporting since has made it seem like it was a mass of locals with pitchforks and torches.

Some stories are just too good to be true, but end up with a life of their own.

Fair enough, perhaps I have the wrong end of the stick for that story. The tone of this thread makes me think that I have a pretty good idea of the attitude the many British people have about how to view adult/child relations.

kennyboy66 wrote: »

Is Oz really that much different ?

Yes it is. Very, very different in my experience.

Mrs Generali and I were talking about this thread and about Miss Generalissimo's 3rd birthday party.

One of the littl'uns fell over on her face (we had the party at Putney Park which is on a hill) and the nearest person (a man) picked her up, gave her a hug and sent her off in the way she wanted to go.

My first thought (as a Pom) was, "Hell mate, you don't want to touch someone else's child. You'll get a slap." Then I thought again, walked over to him and thanked him for helping to comfort the child.

lostinrates

One of the things I loved about Italy was just when Gen describes and I think of as community parenting.....but there is a darker side, as I found out from a friend who works in A and E as a doctor. Because it is assumes the community will tke care of there own, there is not encouragement, in fact strong discouragement, to get any form of intervention in cases of domestic abuse. He told me the policy was on the third admission to A and E in the same hospital people would be warned that next time intervention would begin. Thats the fourth visit to the same A and E. there are 7 major hospitals: thats on the 24th time a person/child i so seriously abused that they HAVE to have medical intervention and it can't be hushed up/healed at home.

Personally, I think there must be a halfway house but I don't think, in a society like ours, we can ever save everyone.

JonnyBravo

lostinrates wrote: »

Personally, I think there must be a halfway house but I don't think, in a society like ours, we can ever save everyone.

A society like ours?

I can't think of any kind of society that exists which offers such a guarantee.

kennyboy66_2

Generali wrote: »

Fair enough, perhaps I have the wrong end of the stick for that story. The tone of this thread makes me think that I have a pretty good idea of the attitude the many British people have about how to view adult/child relations.



Yes it is. Very, very different in my experience.

Mrs Generali and I were talking about this thread and about Miss Generalissimo's 3rd birthday party.

One of the littl'uns fell over on her face (we had the party at Putney Park which is on a hill) and the nearest person (a man) picked her up, gave her a hug and sent her off in the way she wanted to go.

My first thought (as a Pom) was, "Hell mate, you don't want to touch someone else's child. You'll get a slap." Then I thought again, walked over to him and thanked him for helping to comfort the child.

Thats good to hear. When I was there last time, it seemed Oz was catching up with Britain in the !!!!!phile paranoia stakes.

There's nothing better than taking you kids to a restaurant in Spain or Italy where the staff will actually engage and entertain them.

I think in the UK we just hate kids by comparison.

Davesnave

bryanb wrote: »

Hello folks! Have you noticed the title of this thread?

Sorry Sir, we were just discussing the wider implications of the original question, but we know that you need to follow the National Curriculum guidelines.

Perhaps, we won't need to think at all if we stick to those.;)

Will there be a test?:eek:

treliac

bryanb wrote: »

Hello folks! Have you noticed the title of this thread?

Sorry bryan . Threads can sometimes go off topic, taking on a life of their own, but can lead to interesting discussion nevertheless.

I'm sure that anyone wishing to answer your original question will still do so.

LauraLeah91104

We have been really effected by the recession.
My husband lost his job at a well known car plant back in the beginning of the year just 8 weeks after i found out we were expecting our second child.

He still hasnt found a job, and our daughter is now 8 weeks old, and we havent recieved any help from the government as promised with the MI12 form, and so after working for 10 years, 15 for my husband and earning and saving, not claiming any benefits, working hard and paying our own way just to be able to afford a mortgage.
Just 4 years after buying our first house together we are having to sell it because we cannot afford the payments of the mortgage and associated bills.
I just hope it sells quickly as at the minute we havent actually got anywhere else to live and are dreading the next few months.

I hope peoples other stories are more pleasant

JonnyBravo

FungusFighter wrote: »

Sorry Bryan mate:D

Might be time to draw a line under it dudes, I've put the clips on Photobucket cos I'm fed up with the liberals trying to make excuses for a middle-aged man coming onto girls playing in a kiddies playground and I've asked Mewbs to review the matarial as a parent ok?

(Can't post a link unless I pixellate out the kids' faces aparrently)

Don't make me laugh. Either you can show it to members of the public or you can't. By inviting someone to look at it you're breaking the law you seem to be worrying about.
I'm not sure if you're a parent FF, but frankly the idea of that is frightening enough without the need for scaremongering witch-hunts.

As has already been suggested, if you're genuinely worried, go to the police. Either way drop the "salt of the earth concerned geezer" act.