Idle young should be entitled to nothing

Cleaver

boyse7en wrote: »

Calm down, dear. You'll do yourself a mischief!

Shut up you workshy b*stard. Get a job. Grrrrrrr.

bluey890

Cleaver wrote: »

I'd just like to wholeheartedly agree with all the above and state, for the record, that I hate every single member of humanity with a passion and think that the whole world is a joke, let along this country. I'd move to Mars, but there would still be some incompetent b*stard wasting my tax money.

You leave the Red Planet alone! <see location> :mad:

edit: reported your post for a racial slur on Martians.

sporedude

donaldtramp wrote: »

Idle young should be entitled to nothing

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article6814986.ece

The state “should not stifle incentive, opportunity, responsibility”, wrote Sir William Beveridge in the 1942 report that inspired the post-war welfare state. “In establishing a national minimum it should leave room and encouragement for voluntary action by each individual to provide more than that minimum for himself and his family.”
Those cautionary words haunt us now as we discover that 5m adults have not worked since Labour came to power 12 years ago. Even excluding those who are in education or have only recently completed it, and discounting those who have left the labour market through age or ill health, 2.5m have been jobless since 1997 at least. There are now 3.3m households — one in six — with no one over the age of 16 in employment and 1.9m children living in families without a parent in work.

While the recession is increasing the numbers, it clearly did not cause the problem. Those millions remained idle during 10 years of boom when the economy created many jobs that immigrants happily filled....;

....Society today is very different. Stigma has been abolished. To live on benefits has become a lifestyle choice. In many families there is no memory of anyone working. Ours is a culture of entitlement, a word coined to minimise shame and maximise claiming. As a result, taxpayers have spent £346 billion on payments to those out of work since Tony Blair entered No 10.

£346 BILLION on benefits since labour came to power?
2.5m have been jobless since 1997?
3.3m households — one in six — with no one over the age of 16 in employment?

This country is a joke. The stigma about living on benefits must be re-installed.
I'm absoultely sick of the way this country is being run. This "entitlement" culture has to come to an end.

Heres something for you to think about. Dont like the way things are being run? Find an airport and f*ck off out of here. Simples

Cleaver

sporedude wrote: »

Heres something for you to think about. Dont like the way things are being run? Find an airport and f*ck off out of here. Simples

Do you drink Carling?

sporedude

Cleaver wrote: »

Do you drink Carling?

No I dont drink, And before you turn into a total smartass, I do have a job.

mbga9pgf

ILW wrote: »

The vast majority of who have been taxed to the gills for 40 or 50 years.

So, why do we have a trillion pound pensions deficit then for OAPs?

Cleaver

sporedude wrote: »

No I dont drink, And before you turn into a total smartass, I do have a job.

Blimey, you're quite hostile. But I'm glad you have a job.

Whilst I don't agree with the majority of what the OP posts on here, speaking up for your opinion and what you believe in seems quite important and sensible. "f**cking off on a plane" if you don't like what's happening in your country seems a bit immature and defeatist to be honest. And if everyone did that, nothing would ever get done or change in society. Hence voting, political activity, social organisations and community groups all have a part to play in ensuring that authority hears the voice of the people. Or something like that anyway.

bluey890

sporedude wrote: »

No I dont drink, And before you turn into a total smartass, I do have a job.

He's got your number Cleaver...

carolt

Isn't it funny how the OP omits to mention the quote is from an article by Michael Portillo.

As surely no-one can admit to agreeing with Portillo with a straight face.

At least not if they want to show their faces in public. :eek:

bendix

carolt wrote: »

Isn't it funny how the OP omits to mention the quote is from an article by Michael Portillo.

As surely no-one can admit to agreeing with Portillo with a straight face.

At least not if they want to show their faces in public. :eek:

I'd like to put it on record that I agree with Michael Portillo.

And Norman Tebbit. And Margaret Thatcher. And Ken Clarke. And Karl Popper.

Etc etc