Idle young should be entitled to nothing

donaldtramp

Idle young should be entitled to nothing

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article6814986.ece

The state “should not stifle incentive, opportunity, responsibility”, wrote Sir William Beveridge in the 1942 report that inspired the post-war welfare state. “In establishing a national minimum it should leave room and encouragement for voluntary action by each individual to provide more than that minimum for himself and his family.”
Those cautionary words haunt us now as we discover that 5m adults have not worked since Labour came to power 12 years ago. Even excluding those who are in education or have only recently completed it, and discounting those who have left the labour market through age or ill health, 2.5m have been jobless since 1997 at least. There are now 3.3m households — one in six — with no one over the age of 16 in employment and 1.9m children living in families without a parent in work.

While the recession is increasing the numbers, it clearly did not cause the problem. Those millions remained idle during 10 years of boom when the economy created many jobs that immigrants happily filled....;

....Society today is very different. Stigma has been abolished. To live on benefits has become a lifestyle choice. In many families there is no memory of anyone working. Ours is a culture of entitlement, a word coined to minimise shame and maximise claiming. As a result, taxpayers have spent £346 billion on payments to those out of work since Tony Blair entered No 10.

£346 BILLION on benefits since labour came to power?
2.5m have been jobless since 1997?
3.3m households — one in six — with no one over the age of 16 in employment?

This country is a joke. The stigma about living on benefits must be re-installed.
I'm absoultely sick of the way this country is being run. This "entitlement" culture has to come to an end.

mbga9pgf

Why bother stopping with the young? Plenty of bone-idle 20-50 year olds out there that need to get a job too...

boyse7en

There's quite a number of people over 65 who just sponge off the state too. No jobs, but they seem to have plenty of money for Sanatogen and Bingo.

Graham_Devon

I'm not sure we can blame those playing the system anymore.

I'm starting to feel they are actually the bright ones. We have one life, they can enjoy theirs. For the rest of us, we get 4 weeks a year to do that kind of stuff.

Labour have made a life n benefits so comfortable, and incentivised it so much, I can't really blame people anymore for making the choice to use the system.

The_White_Horse

just stop the dole. its not needed. it doesn't really help those who lose their job and need help - its not enough to pay half the bills. just stop it.

bendix

I'm afraid I'm getting the point of caring. I realise it will never change and the culture of dependency is too deeply ingrained to get rid of without something that no political party has the balls to do.

So I shall seeth away in silence, work hard, build my nest egg on my own merits and look forward to getting away from it all.

But - and here's the rub - I shall do so with an ever increasing sense of satisfaction, personal pride and increased loathing, shame and contempt for those who sponge off me.

StevieJ

Replaying your near table topper from the Motley Fool I see Tramp

http://boards.fool.co.uk/BestOf.asp?topwhat=rec&numofposts=25&folder=all&ticker=&span=7days&from=19%2F8%2F09&to=2%2F9%2F09&submit.x=15&submit.y=8

ILW

boyse7en wrote: »

There's quite a number of people over 65 who just sponge off the state too. No jobs, but they seem to have plenty of money for Sanatogen and Bingo.

The vast majority of who have been taxed to the gills for 40 or 50 years.

StevieJ

ILW wrote: »

The vast majority of who have been taxed to the gills for 40 or 50 years.

I think it was tongue in cheek

Cleaver

donaldtramp wrote: »

This country is a joke. The stigma about living on benefits must be re-installed.
I'm absoultely sick of the way this country is being run. This "entitlement" culture has to come to an end.

mbga9pgf wrote: »

Why bother stopping with the young? Plenty of bone-idle 20-50 year olds out there that need to get a job too...

boyse7en wrote: »

There's quite a number of people over 65 who just sponge off the state too. No jobs, but they seem to have plenty of money for Sanatogen and Bingo.

The_White_Horse wrote: »

just stop the dole. its not needed.

I'd just like to wholeheartedly agree with all the above and state, for the record, that I hate every single member of humanity with a passion and think that the whole world is a joke, let along this country. I'd move to Mars, but there would still be some incompetent b*stard wasting my tax money.

This government isn't a joke, it's a f**king stand up routine, and I for one am f**king sick of it.

Why bother stopping with young, old, middle aged? Why stop with humans? When did you last see a badger working? Or an unborn foetus? They should all get jobs, the work-shy, unborn, badger b*stards. ARGGHHH!!!

I'm going to kill the entire planet in a maelstrom of hate and nihilism, including myself as the pure hate and vile within me is churning my insides.

WHAHAGHGAHGHAGGHAHGAHGAGHA GHGHAHGAHGAGHAGAGAGA AGAGAAAA!!!!!! WGAGAGAGAGAGHATEHATEHATEBTSARDSBTSRADS!!! MMMMMMMMHHHYYY!!!

boyse7en

Cleaver wrote: »

I'd just like to wholeheartedly agree with all the above and state, for the record, that I hate every single member of humanity with a passion and think that the whole world is a joke, let along this country. I'd move to Mars, but there would still be some incompetent b*stard wasting my tax money.

This government isn't a joke, it's a f**king stand up routine, and I for one am f**king sick of it.

Why bother stopping with young, old, middle aged? Why stop with humans? When did you last see a badger working? Or an unborn foetus? They should all get jobs, the work-shy, unborn, badger b*stards. ARGGHHH!!!

I'm going to kill the entire planet in a maelstrom of hate and nihilism, including myself as the pure hate and vile within me is churning my insides.

WHAHAGHGAHGHAGGHAHGAHGAGHA GHGHAHGAHGAGHAGAGAGA AGAGAAAA!!!!!! WGAGAGAGAGAGHATEHATEHATEBTSARDSBTSRADS!!! MMMMMMMMHHHYYY!!!

Calm down, dear. You'll do yourself a mischief!