Bed wetting help

pigpen

they wont refer to enuresis clinic until 7.. mine is almost 10 and sopping wet in a morning and she doesn't care!!!

We were advised to give apple juice no citrus, blackcurrant as it is acidic and irritates, nothing fizzy.. and no drinks after 6pm. 7 250ml drinks a day to stretch the bladder.

They still do give the alarms, but they woke everyone in the house but Madam Whizz

What is he like during the day? If he still has accidents/dribbles then it may be another issue which might respond to medication. We had oxybutynin during the day and are currently on desmopressin for the second time and it is still making no difference but we have tried everything else.

You can get a referral to urology rather than enuresis because they are a waste of time for us.. we get star charts and not much else but you don't care whether you get a star or not when you are asleep... we have been going for 3 years and got nowhere!

In year 6 (10-11 years) it is common that at least 22 children will still be bedwetting.. yours is not abnormal by a long shot.. I think it is about 1 in 3 still wet at 5.. 10 in a class of 30!

FBaby

I would recommend to be patient and reassuring. My son was still waiting the bed every night at 5 (but thankfully the nappies held it in and didn't need to change the bedding every night). His dad was worried about it and made a big deal out of it which just made him feel stressful. I reassured him that it wasn't his fault, that he couldn't help it, but that one day he would be ready and that would be the end of it. It's exactly what happened when I didn't expect it at all as he was still wetting the bed. He got up one morning saying he had a dry nappy and had the night before (he used to throw them away himself). I asked him if he wanted to try without that night (had tried a number of times before but failed every time), he said yes, and that was the end of it, only had one or two accidents since in over two years. He does sometimes gets up in the night to go to the toilet on his own. We did absolutely nothing different (didn't reduce drinks or getting him to go to toilet before etc...)

I had told myself that I wouldn't make an issue of it until he was 7 or 8 and then would eventually go to the GP if still wetting the bed. I really do think that being relaxed about it allowed him to be so too and that's what did it.

Doozergirl

In the main, they do grow out of it, it's just really difficult to contain the wee!

I would buy the larger pants (8-15)and see if they work as they are elasticated and I have bought them before when they were out of the smaller size.

You can buy bed mats as well to go underneath. With DS I used to have a mattress protector from mothercare, pampers bed mats and the dry nites. Try to ensure that his willy is pointing down as I remember with DS if it was up, not as much could be absorbed! I found lifting impossible as he just didn't wake up even if I made him walk to the loo so we were learning nothing. One day he just stopped like the poster above; couple of accidents, one memorably where MIL had given him two tins of fruit cocktail really late at night although she knew not to give him drinks, she didn't think about the water content of fruit cocktail!

rugbymum

anderson8 wrote: »

i would also recommend waking them up for the toilet before you go to bed.
worked for my 8yr old step son

Tried this, but the hysteria that ensued meant it was counter-productive for all concerned.

pigpen wrote: »

7 250ml drinks a day to stretch the bladder.

What is he like during the day? If he still has accidents/dribbles then it may be another issue which might respond to medication. We had oxybutynin during the day and are currently on desmopressin for the second time and it is still making no difference but we have tried everything else.

we get star charts and not much else but you don't care whether you get a star or not when you are asleep... we have been going for 3 years and got nowhere!

In year 6 (10-11 years) it is common that at least 22 children will still be bedwetting.. yours is not abnormal by a long shot.. I think it is about 1 in 3 still wet at 5.. 10 in a class of 30!

Thank you for the advice & the stats.
We have a star chart, but he gets terribly disappointed at seeing the result on the wall!
During the day he is absolutely fine.

FBaby wrote: »

I would recommend to be patient and reassuring. My son was still waiting the bed every night at 5 (but thankfully the nappies held it in and didn't need to change the bedding every night).
I had told myself that I wouldn't make an issue of it until he was 7 or 8 and then would eventually go to the GP if still wetting the bed. I really do think that being relaxed about it allowed him to be so too and that's what did it.

Trust me I am patient.
The nappies I use (biggest available BTW) just cannot cope with the amount of liquid, hence the bedding changes.
I just wanted to ask in case anybody came up with anything I wasn't already doing

Js_Other_Half

Have you considered using washable nappies for the next stage? Cheaper for you at least.

http://www.thenappylady.co.uk/public...rch.aspx?cat=7

http://www.twinkleontheweb.co.uk/aca...edwetting.html

http://www.snazzypants.co.uk/shop/index.php3?formaction=catdisplay&categoryID=23 (bedtime pants)

Js_Other_Half

http://www.york.ac.uk/inst/crd/EHC/ehc82.pdf

http://www.eric.org.uk/

pigpen

rugbymum wrote: »

Tried this, but the hysteria that ensued meant it was counter-productive for all concerned.

Thank you for the advice & the stats.
We have a star chart, but he gets terribly disappointed at seeing the result on the wall!
During the day he is absolutely fine.

Trust me I am patient.
The nappies I use (biggest available BTW) just cannot cope with the amount of liquid, hence the bedding changes.
I just wanted to ask in case anybody came up with anything I wasn't already doing

We use the bigger 8-15 size pullups.. pampers underjams seem to hold more than the drynites.. and DD prefers them TBH

If the star chart is just adding to his distress stop using it he doesn't need to be able to see he is 'failing'.. in is eyes that is what it will be!

Enuresis clinic advise NOT to lift them anyway, not only does it encourage night time needing to go and teaching them to go while they are asleep.. as it is very hard to wake them.. it doesn't give them any responsibility for beig wet.

Someone suggested to me having a couple of waterproof sheets and laying 'waterproof, bed sheets, waterproof, bedsheets' and if one is wet whizz it off and there is a clean one underneath.. we have a spare duvet to hand as well. You can get waterproof covers for duvets and pillows as well.. dunelm has them, but they are very hot.

rugbymum

Doozergirl wrote: »

In the main, they do grow out of it, it's just really difficult to contain the wee!

I would buy the larger pants (8-15)and see if they work as they are elasticated and I have bought them before when they were out of the smaller size.

You can buy bed mats as well to go underneath. With DS I used to have a mattress protector from mothercare, pampers bed mats and the dry nites. Try to ensure that his willy is pointing down as I remember with DS if it was up, not as much could be absorbed! I found lifting impossible as he just didn't wake up even if I made him walk to the loo so we were learning nothing. One day he just stopped like the poster above; couple of accidents, one memorably where MIL had given him two tins of fruit cocktail really late at night although she knew not to give him drinks, she didn't think about the water content of fruit cocktail!

I was worried in case the elasticed sides would be TOO big and end up leaking that way! :D But I will give them a go.
There is a plastic matress protector underneath the sheet, so it is just washable bedding.

Js_Other_Half wrote: »

Have you considered using washable nappies for the next stage? Cheaper for you at least.

http://www.thenappylady.co.uk/public...rch.aspx?cat=7

http://www.twinkleontheweb.co.uk/aca...edwetting.html

http://www.snazzypants.co.uk/shop/index.php3?formaction=catdisplay&categoryID=23 (bedtime pants)

I was using washables until he was three, when the lady at the local real nappy place, ran out of ideas to try. The problem is containing the sheer volume of liquid, and if htey don't work I can't face the extra laundry.

pigpen wrote: »

We use the bigger 8-15 size pullups.. pampers underjams seem to hold more than the drynites.. and DD prefers them TBH

If the star chart is just adding to his distress stop using it he doesn't need to be able to see he is 'failing'.. in is eyes that is what it will be!

Enuresis clinic advise NOT to lift them anyway, not only does it encourage night time needing to go and teaching them to go while they are asleep.. as it is very hard to wake them.. it doesn't give them any responsibility for beig wet.

Someone suggested to me having a couple of waterproof sheets and laying 'waterproof, bed sheets, waterproof, bedsheets' and if one is wet whizz it off and there is a clean one underneath.. we have a spare duvet to hand as well. You can get waterproof covers for duvets and pillows as well.. dunelm has them, but they are very hot.

Will definately try the bigger huggies.
Must admit I have never seen any pampers that would fit. Maybe my local supermarket doesnt' stock them. Will check it out.
The star chart disappeard!
I didn't know about the waterproof quilt & pillow covers. Will investigate. Hot? no problems, despite being a tiny sweat monster, it may help. The house is bloomin freezing!
Thanks guys.

pigpen

our bigger tesco has them on offer at the moment. 2 for £7 but the smaller store doesn't even stock the bigger size.

stilernin

My DD wet the bed until she was about 8ish. So regularly that she went to Brownie camp with two sleeping bags.

On her bed, on top of a waterproof sheet I put a folded towel and then the sheet. Almost every night she would wet the bed, get up, pull the sheet and towel off the bed, dump it on the bathroom floor with her wet nightie and then come and climb into bed with me. No fuss, no comment. I have no idea what time this was as I didn't bother looking.

She is now 33 and doesn't do this anymore. Well at least her husband has made no comment.

Of course she was almost pre 'disposables' and I do wonder if children these days aren't 'getting the message' because they are too comfortable.

If I were to give any advice, I would say don't worry and do what ever makes everything as stress free for all concerned.