Bed wetting help

pigpen

the extra drinks don't make any difference if he is emptying the bladder straight away like he will feel the need to.. he needs to wait until he needs to go.. then wait another 15-30 minutes and then go.. forcing more urine into the bladder.. otherwise he is just going to pee more often.

My daughter has a small bladder and an irritable bladder... and will still be peeing every night at 24 I am certain of it.. urology appointment is obviously not happening so I 'could' chase that up.. but TBH I really don't see the point. it will result in more/different drugs etc.. the alarm didn't even wake her up! I said we needed to hook her up to the mains she is such a heavy sleeper.. plus the idea if they wake as soon as they start to pee and stop and go to the loo to do the rest.. once she has started she can't stop.. utterly pointless.

newbeginning_2

I've got the same issue with one of my boys, we've seen the hospital about it and I was told the same - he needs to drink more during the day and try to 'hold it' I've tried this but I just felt nasty asking him to try and hold on before he goes to the toilet. I don't use dry-nites, I always woke him up to take him to the toilet but I have stopped that now, as I think that's what made the problem worse.

Mado - did they do any kind of test to say the bladder was to small?

Mado

newbeginning wrote: »

Mado - did they do any kind of test to say the bladder was to small?

No. He just pees in a jar every no and again when he is "bursting"... (140 ml is his record!!!)

pigpen

Mine had an ultrasound scan of her bladder when it was 'full to bursting' and then another once she had emptied it to make sure she was emptying it properly.. not doing half a pee and running off..

newbeginning_2

Keep wanting to ask my son to wee in a jar so I can check, but he gets embarrassed easily, so I sometimes find it's easier not to it, If I can get him to do it I'll let you know the results!

I really struggle getting him to drink enough during the day, he's at school all day so I can't monitor what he drinks or how often he's going to the toilet.

BTW - does he suffer from constipation? mine does and according to the doctor I saw it can be a big cause for bed-wetting.

newbeginning_2

pigpen wrote: »

Mine had an ultrasound scan of her bladder when it was 'full to bursting' and then another once she had emptied it to make sure she was emptying it properly.. not doing half a pee and running off..

I asked for this because I was convinced there was something wrong with him,but was told 'No, he just needs to learn how to hold it', the hospital gave us Desmopressin tablets, which I wouldn't give him after reading the leaflet, so we plodded on, but eventually I gave in and gave him them, but TBH I didn't find they made much difference so I stopped giving them, he could sleep through an earthquake so I don't believe an alarm would make much difference either.

pigpen

The desmo made no difference to us either.. the oxybutynin did though for the daytime wetting.. controlled the irritable bladder really well .. she too it for about 3 months and so far we have ben fine during he day.. BUT.. her teachers are very aware of her issues and allow her to go pee during the day if she needs to.. but no more than 2-3 times a day..

mine slept through the alarm but it woke me up in the next room with the door closed!.. and I sleep like the dead!

moo2moo

We've opted for the hope that she eventually grows out of it approach. Currently 1 night in 3 is wet. At age 10 it is lessening in frequency but we've found pyjama pants useful for residential trips and sleepovers elsewhere. Its not a not a solution but it does mean they can do the same things as everyone else without worrying too much.

You can get a voucher for a free pack of UnderJams Pyjama pants which fit children up to the age of 15 although theres a smaller size too and a sample via the post from here.

elvis86

dizzyb99 wrote: »

My youngest DS was wet most nights until he was 11 and wore the Huggies pull up shorts until then. He only began to get really concerned about it when he was going to go on a school holiday in year 7. We had already tried the nasal spray but he didn't like it and in all honesty it didn't seem to make a great deal of difference. The school nurse suggested that because he wore the pull ups and I dealt with the wet bedding that he had no responsibility in the matter. She suggested that he stopped wearing the pull ups and whenever he was wet he had to strip the bed the following morning and put the wet bedding in the washing machine. He hated having to touch the wet sheets but after ten days we had two dry nights on the run. We monitored his success on a chart and over a period of three months we had longer and longer periods of continuous dry nights until he was completely dry nd has been for almost two years.

I have to say that your solution really seems to make sense. I absolutely understand the need to be sensitive and not stigmatise the child for something they are doing subconsciously when asleep. But I'm not convinced that completely normalising the behaviour and showing no concern whatsoever is necessarily constructive?:(

Those who have said that their children are "proud of being in nappies", or will wait until they have their pull-ups on for bed then soil them immediately, I can't help but think that by not addressing this behaviour, you may do more harm than good?

It is not acceptable for a child to consciously make the choice to soil themselves, in the majority of cases surely this is a separate issue to the bed-wetting? If this happens and they're not concerned, if on the contrary they gladly admit to you that they've just "pooed in their nappy", I would be inclined to suggest that the child does need to be made to appreciate that this behaviour isn't normal.

freebiequennie

Mado wrote: »

I have a 7 years old who still wets the bed every night.
After talking to the school nurse last year, I went to the GP and got a referal for the enuretic clinic.
We're going next week; I'll let you know how we get on.

I know of another little boy turning 7 in january who is exactly the same; it isn't that unusual, especially in boys.

We don't make a fuss about it. We have tried bribery, star charts, waking him up when we go to bed or early in the morning; he just doesn't wake up. I am sure he will eventually get dry at night!

good luck at enuresis clinic

some of the advice will be

ensuring drinking at least 6-8 cups a day (1500mls)
cut out fizzy drinks, blackcurrant and fizzy
double void at bedtime - toilet, clean teeth and toilet again
remove pull-ups/nappies - encourage wetting
dont lift at night unless child can fully remember it the next day as all it encourages is for the child to wee when asleep.