Diesel vs Petrol

missile

It looks like a performance car, goes like a performance car, sounds like a performance car>



.... and it is an oil burner

sebdangerfield

And got binned in 2009 in favour of the lambourgini v10.

stphnstevey

Worked out that I would be £2000 better off with a diesel over 6yrs covering 15K a year

goldspanners

stphnstevey wrote: »

Worked out that I would be £2000 better off with a diesel over 6yrs covering 15K a year

all going well. :rolleyes:

stphnstevey

goldspanners wrote: »

all going well. :rolleyes:

Can you expand?

goldspanners

stphnstevey wrote: »

Can you expand?

theres 13 pages of expansion,read them.

Pablosammy

sebdangerfield wrote: »

missile wrote: »

Meanwhile, the most powerful 2.0Tfsi has 260 ish bhp and 5.3 secoonds to 60 compared to the most powerful diesel with less than 170.

You're missing the point entirely. This is MONEY SAVING EXPERT .com. If you want a 200bhp car and do over 15,000 miles per year, you can do it more economically with a diesel. Forget repair costs, these things rarely go wrong. For the vast majority of demanding high-mileage drivers, diesel is the way to go.

Back to performance, 0-60 times are all well and good, but floor a diesel in 6th gear at 70mph and it will give you far more shove than the equivalent petrol. There is far more to the story than you are giving credit to.

trev012

I have read every single post in this topic and think at the end of the day it is all down to personal choice. You have to weigh up the initial cost of the diesel against the equivilant petrol model, and then compare the difference in a gallon of diesel against a gallon of petrol. Nowadays, this difference can be as much as 18p per gallon but better still, road tax can on some models be as little as £30. Compare that with the petrol equivilant of approx £155 and that’s an instant saving of £120 per year.

I have just bought a new petrol car (Due to driving less mileage now) after 8 years of driving a 2.0 diesel Vauxhall Zafira and have to say it was the best car I have ever owned in over 30 years of driving. To be honest, we bought it by chance as they never had any petrol ones in stock and we couldn’t wait any longer. However, there is one very important point I notice that nobody has posted. Diesel cars use glowplugs and these are very common across all makes and models to seize and get stuck fast in the engine. This happened to me earlier this year after 85k miles and I was quoted a price of over £600 to take the cylinder head off to get to it from the other side. This wouldn’t happen in a petrol car. This is the only reason we decided to sell it on.

Also, if the pump were to go as well, that can very easily be £2k to repair. I’m not as technically minded as some members of this forum but nowadays, I would personally give up performance for mpg. My zaffy was never the quickest on the block but then again, it wasn’t a cart horse either. It did everything I asked of it, very efficiently.

bigjl

I personally prefer a petrol car, nicer to drive, cleaner to refuel and quieter.

I have a Mondeo diesel at the moment due to being able to get 50mpg in a big family car.

I have had loads of petrol cars, a few diesels, and to be honest the diesels have always been more expensive to maintain. Being more complicated they can also fail in a spectacularly expensive way.

Think about DMF's, DPF's, common rail injection, misfueling.

But they have good usable performance, at least my Mondeo 130 TDCi does, the 115 is a bit wet in comparison, the performance of mine is comparable to a hot hatch from when I was young, XR3 or similar.

It is easier to drive around town than a WRX I used to have, mainly due to the low revs punch of the diesel.

My next car will probably be petrol, I might even go for a big engined automatic and get it put on LPG.

There are advantages to both choices, but I still want to get myself back into a Subaru, had two and just can't help myself, my Legacy never cost me a penny in repairs in nearly 5 years of ownership, and it did a fair few miles, 100k plus.

I will almost certainly go for a large engined Legacy Estate next time, with LPG obviously. Maybe with a small nippy runabout for domestic duties and school run.

TVR2

pgilc1 wrote: »

OK Smart Boy.

I've just bought a new Passat 2.0 TDI Bluemotion.

I got it for £15850 and it will average around 58mpg and hit 0-60 in around 11 seconds. It has air con, leccy windows, cruise control, alloys, and met paint.

Can you show me any Passat for less money that offers a better combination fo price, economy and performance?

Performance?! My first car was a Rover 214 and that did 0-60 in 10.9 seconds. You'd be beaten off the lights by a 15 year old Rover...

A fair comparison would be between the 2.0 turbocharged Rover 600, a car which hit 60 mph in 7 seconds (a figure few 2.0 turbodiesels could manage today).

Badges such as Bluemotion and other manufacturers' equivalents are simply 21st century Clubman, Pop Plus etc...