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Well, you need to move outside of your BBC, university-educated, middle class Guardian reading suburbia and take a look at the wider world.
It does happen. My own no-hoper brother is a case in point. Hasnt worked in six years, smokes, is at the pub every other night and has just come back from a fortnight in Cyprus courtesy of an easy-jet cheapie.
I often wonder how some people do it, all afternoon in the bookies evenings in the pubs and dont seem to have any other income except for the dole. If I go to the pub I'll spend £40-£50 thats nearly a weeks money for a single person on the dole.0 -
Well, you need to move outside of your BBC, university-educated, middle class Guardian reading suburbia and take a look at the wider world.
It does happen. My own no-hoper brother is a case in point. Hasnt worked in six years, smokes, is at the pub every other night and has just come back from a fortnight in Cyprus courtesy of an easy-jet cheapie.
and he funds this solely from benefits does he? no savings, compensation payouts, help from other sources whatsoever. sorry, but i don't believe this. how much in benefits is he getting?!Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. - Lord Byron0 -
No savings. No compensation payouts that I know of. In all honesty I can't say if he does stuff under the table. All I know is that I look at his life sometimes and wonder where I went wrong.
Is it that expensive to do, given his rent is paid by housing benefit too? I dunno. I stay out of it.0 -
No savings. No compensation payouts that I know of. In all honesty I can't say if he does stuff under the table. All I know is that I look at his life sometimes and wonder where I went wrong.[/QUOTE]
well you know that path is still there if you really want it (somehow i don't think it would pay for the lifestyle you like and lead).
of course he must be doing stuff under the table. do you know how much a pack of fags (or even rolling baccy) costs these days and the current rate of benefits? pubs, fags, foreign hols are not an option on benefits alone.Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. - Lord Byron0 -
No savings. No compensation payouts that I know of. In all honesty I can't say if he does stuff under the table. All I know is that I look at his life sometimes and wonder where I went wrong.
Is it that expensive to do, given his rent is paid by housing benefit too? I dunno. I stay out of it.
So now we know what your values are
'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
He has a better lifestyle than me, ninky. I spend nothing on myself. It's all going into my 'sod off to retire to Thailand in four years' fund.
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He has a better lifestyle than me, ninky. I spend nothing on myself. It's all going into my 'sod off to retire to Thailand in four years' fund.
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deferred. but gratification no less.
the option of the salaried.Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. - Lord Byron0 -
It's already broken.lemonjelly wrote: »Is it possible there could be real problems for breakages in our social fabric?
If Great Britain PLC went to the DFW board and posted a SOA the regular posters over there would have a collective fit.
Really, truthfully, I dont give a sh*t about the money wasted on duck houses and benefit fraud. I might rant about it on occasion but I am sensible enough to realise that any system will be exploited by the unscrupulous wherever they are on the social scale.
However if the measure of a society is how it looks after the most vunerable of its members then, collectively, we should be hanging our heads in shame.
We have an unprecedented number of children on both supervision orders and the "at risk register". If those same children were puppies the RSPCA would have swooped in and rehomed them long ago and no one would raise an eyebrow never mind an objection.
Our health care is a disgrace. Elderly people are dying in their own filth in our hospitals and a senior surgeon recently advised the public to postpone all but the most urgent surgery for the next three years.
Whole swathes of our population are condemned to the scrap heap of a life on benefits and we vilify them if they borrow ten quid from the Provvy.
Our politicians fiddle while Rome burns and we grumble and do bugg4r all.Retail is the only therapy that works0
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