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I wish you could sue smokers!

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  • xxlaurissaxx
    xxlaurissaxx Posts: 2,253 Forumite
    edited 21 August 2009 at 11:43AM
    I am a smoker and yes I know it smells but I enjoy a ciggie. The one thing I hate is getting lectured off non smokers and worse ex-smokers(the ones who don't lecture are fine). Yes its great you dont smoke but I do, its my choice and I have to live with the price and smell.

    If you dont like people smoking near you 2 words - begins with F and ends with F! We have to go outside to smoke so if you dont like it, dont go outside(In pubs I mean)!!!

    I wouldnt smoke near kids or in bus shelters etc but I have a right to smoke outside where it is allowed and is legal and just because you don't like it, won't make me move.

    I have to agree about people holding cigs down low when walking through crowds. It really anoys me and is dangerous. I always cover my cigs so no-one gets burnt or hurt.

    Sorry rant over but this thread has really p****d me off. I have a right to smoke and I WILL!!!!


    edit - Has anyone else noticed this or is it just me, but the ones who lectures smokers the most is ex-smokers?!?!?
    (Im not saying all ex-smokers lecture, but there are a few who lecture more, just because they have stopped, they think everyone else should?)
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  • Volcano
    Volcano Posts: 1,116 Forumite
    avinabacca wrote: »
    there's still around a £2.6bn net benefit in the pot.

    So who should be suing whom?

    That £2.6bn would be quickly swallowed up by lawsuits brought by hospitality workers sueing the government for their second-hand smoke related diseases.

    No amount of money would compensate me for dying early.
  • avinabacca
    avinabacca Posts: 1,062 Forumite
    Volcano wrote: »
    That £2.6bn would be quickly swallowed up by lawsuits brought by hospitality workers sueing the government for their second-hand smoke related diseases.

    Surely not now that smoking's been banned in the workplace? Why, the government's acted to prevent the hazard of second-hand smoke, so we should all reap the benefits - workers and non-workers alike!

    Right?
    Oh come on, don't be silly.

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  • There is no such thing as a considerate smoker, unless they have absolutely no family or friends.

    My mum died of throat cancer and my uncle, nan and grandad of lung cancer. All were heavy smokers and died in their fifties. All of them were treated for years and must have cost the NHS hundreds of thousands of pounds. All of them were perfectly aware of the risks they took by smoking, maybe not in the early years but certainly when the risks became widely known.

    People don't realise how their habit affects other people - it's not just the people with cancer who suffer, it's the whole family whose lives are on hold too. Daily trips to hospital and cancer wards for several years, trying to arrange your life around caring for the other parent/grandparent and your own family too. Constantly having to make heart wrenching decisions about operations and treatment.

    And now facing having to explain to my babies that they do not have any family apart from myself and my husband.

    Now having children myself, I cannot for the life of me understand why someone would willingly try to shorten their life expectancy. Yes I know that you could be hit by a bus tomorrow or die in other ways but why take that risk? Why waste so much money on an expensive habit that you have to go outside in the rain to do? Why pay more for insurance all your life? Why bother paying into a pension when, chances are, you won't be taking advantage of it? It makes no sense to me.
  • vyle
    vyle Posts: 2,379 Forumite
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    Jeez, do all the smokers really assume that not being allowed to smoke in public places means they have to stand outside and blow smoke in people's faces?

    You can always wait and smoke when you get home. If you're so weak willed that you began smoking and can't wait until you get home to do it, then something must be seriously wrong with you.

    I bet you wouldn't be too pleased if I walked up to you and took a dump on your shoes just because I wasn't allowed to do it on the bus and couldn't be bothered to wait til I got home. It's no different to what you're doing, but at least I wouldn't be damaging your lungs, giving you a sore throat and itchy eyes.
  • costapkt
    costapkt Posts: 428 Forumite
    These non smokers sound so perfect, they must have some secret vice, or dont they want to tell us ?
    Keep on puffing.
  • Volcano
    Volcano Posts: 1,116 Forumite
    avinabacca wrote: »
    Surely not now that smoking's been banned in the workplace? Why, the government's acted to prevent the hazard of second-hand smoke, so we should all reap the benefits - workers and non-workers alike!

    Let's hope so, though as the £5bn:
    ..... is still likely to be an underestimate, they say, because it does not include indirect costs, such as lost productivity and informal care, the costs of treating disease caused by passive smoking, or the full range of conditions associated with smoking.
    ....smokers shouldn't rush to absolve themselves too quickly.
  • RadoJo wrote: »
    So smokers can't smoke inside, and you want to ban them from smoking outside or at home as well in case they come near you? I think you are being a little unreasonable in your desire to limit other people's freedoms.

    I am not saying they cant smoke outside however when they come in i dont want them anywhere near me sat or stood as the smoke smell is overpowering and as other posters have said makes them feel physically sick. Maybe offices should have smokers partitioned off so they all sit together then their offensive smoke smell wont hurt anyone
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  • MrsE_2
    MrsE_2 Posts: 24,162 Forumite
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    Rosie75 wrote: »
    Remember those days when you'd go out for a meal, and would just be starting on your main course whilst the people at the next table got on to their coffee and lit up? And they'd always extend their smoking arm as far away from themselves and as close to you as possible?

    My sister & I stopped in a small country pub to get something to eat not long before the smoking ban. We picked a quite corner away from the bar & smokers & were happily tucking into our food when two smokers came & sat down beside us:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

    I'm an ex smoker & I agree with the OP:D

    I'm massively embarrassed that I was a disgusting, smelly, anti-social smoker for years:o:o:o
    But in my defence at least I have seen the light now:A:A
  • dizzyg_2
    dizzyg_2 Posts: 179 Forumite
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    Smoking does not make you a bad person.

    I smoke and I enjoy it but I am very considerate of others.

    During work when I go out I smoke in an alleyway to avoid people. If I am walking and smoking and there are people about I cup my cigarette in my hand so if anyone gets burned its me and I would never blow smoke in anyone's face.

    Outside areas at pubs is where my consideration ends. Recently my friends and I were asked to move tables in our local beer garden by a non smoker because our smoke was bothering him. We politely suggested that he be the one to move tables however he refused because he wanted to sit in the sunny part of the garden!!!

    Us smokers have earned the right to our beer gardens. We have to use them in all weathers, huddled under umbrellas and braced against the wind. We have spent time claiming our territory and don't complain about it. But as soon as there is a little sunshine all the non smokers sit outside and complain about us being there.

    I welcomed the smoking ban and don't even smoke in my own home anymore. Don't begrudge us the little space outside we have.
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