MSE Parents Club Part 5

Buttonmoons

Emlou your cat has the funniest look on his face ever. I caught my fat cat mid shake, and it's sooo funny, she looks like a lolcat.



I have this laptop, it's never off also -



Macbook pro,17" screen. Must admit, mine is not in good condition anymore. I daren't close the lid as the frame behind the screen is popping off (thanks Keira!) apart from that it's in perfect working order. Hope it never dies. Couldn't go back to using a Microsoft compoota, they are icky, and I hate the million pop ups you get,even though you have protection.

My house is a state and i cannot be fooked cleaning it, so im not going too. I've had a major spot outbreak and my skin looks so pasty right now, i have a lot of congestion on it, kinda like little white under the skin spots? Gross anyways.

Must remember to pluck my brows tonight and shave my bits, that will make me feel a bit better and TOMORROW THE STUPID IMPLANT COMES OUT, WAHEY!

Sami_Bee

Krystaltips wrote: »

Sami... Once Christoph is completely potty trained you will look back on that link and laugh to yourself...


Really well ta, she made a note that Aimee needs to go when she needs to go and said she'll keep an eye on her... She came back with wet pants again today but I think she just needs a little while to get into the swing of things... I'll send her with a bag of pants in the mean time, she's very good at sorting herself out anyway...

I did wonder about the toilet issue I really wanna sort him out, I'm sick of gagging everyday changing his sticky bum!! buuut I don't want to spend all day either feeding Ed, pestering Chris, scrubbing the carpet :rolleyes:

Glad the teacher was helpful, did Aimee not tell her that she'd wet herself? My mum is forever handing out clean pants at her school

emlou2009

does anyone else watch neighbours? is it just me or is it a bit unrealistic that a schoolkid would go back to school 2 weeks after having a baby, pump between lessons and store her breastmilk in the staff room fridge?! :rotfl: two weeks after having seth i had trouble getting my head round asda let alone school :rotfl:

Sami_Bee

Button you really have had a ship day! poor you, maybe elle has some rocky road left for you? (but it does have skanky skanky apricots in it _pale_)

Em that pic is lovely! do you not have a cat net for the cot? I'm a bit funny about pets in doors nevermind anywhere near babies bed

Sami_Bee

emlou2009 wrote: »

does anyone else watch neighbours? is it just me or is it a bit unrealistic that a schoolkid would go back to school 2 weeks after having a baby, pump between lessons and store her breastmilk in the staff room fridge?! :rotfl: two weeks after having seth i had trouble getting my head round asda let alone school :rotfl:

At least they're showing BFing in a positive light (albeit completely un realistic) :rotfl: I take it her baby also never cries?

emlou2009

i hate him going near it sami, he only tries to get in it with him while i'm there, i think its an attention thing! i'm always grabbing seths hands out the way when he grabs him too, rest assured when he does get a handful of cat he gets a antiseptic wipe off!! i'm not OTT about germs or anything but cats are a bit skanky really, bum licking and all that!!

ETA he cant go out yet though, he is only just coming up to 5 months old and hasnt been done or had his jabs yet. and we'll probably just keep him in through the winter once he is old enough and start letting him out come spring time

elle_gee

Sami_Bee wrote: »

Button you really have had a ship day! poor you, maybe elle has some rocky road left for you? (but it does have skanky skanky apricots in it _pale_)

Indeedy I do, although there are now three pieces less than there were ten minutes ago.. Just taking the opportunity to enjoy a hot cuppa.

Have sorted the steriliser, done the washing up, just going to express (I know you all need to know these things! ), then I might have a quick tidy around the living room, put Rhys' clothes away then nip out to Argos. Have got a couple of drawer unit thingies for the bathroom reserved until 8pm tonight.. if I get them, it means I can finish off sorting out the bathroom but that of course also means cleaning it!

No idea how long OH is going to be out.. he said something about "a couple of hours" but we'll see

emlou2009

Sami_Bee wrote: »

At least they're showing BFing in a positive light (albeit completely un realistic) :rotfl: I take it her baby also never cries?

oh no it does but it only settles to his dad singing some random aussie chart number and nothing else :rolleyes:
of course the new grandmother was completely able to drop everything to look after the baby while the mum is at school with no discussion of finances either :rolleyes::rotfl:

searching_me

god my son snores so loud :rotfl: x

weezl74

Hi Tine,

Sorry about the delay and thanks for the invitation to continue with our healthy debate . NB I warned I’d be long in my response:eek:. You asked why anyone would want to have a birth away from a hospital setting. My answer is that I believe the evidence shows that for a low-risk pregnancy delivering from 37-42 weeks it is a far safer option for both mum and baby. (and father too)

Fewer home-born babies are born in poor condition. The homebirth mothers are less likely to have suffered lacerations during birth. They were less likely to have had their labors induced or augmented by medications or to have had cesarean sections, forceps or vacuum extractor deliveries.

Ceasarean sections increase a woman’s chance of dying in childbirth by 4 times, from 1:10000 to 1:2500, they are also associated with many more complications, increased rick of post-partum bleeding and infections, a lengthier recovery time and difficulties bonding with the baby and establishing breastfeeding.

Medications used in delivery are still found in the systems of some babies at 8 weeks post-birth.



Ventouse and forceps delivery increase by 5 times a woman’s likelihood of having severe trauma to her vagina, perineum and rectum. In a HB a woman is 70% likely to have an intact perineum, in hospital this figure is less than 20%.

Perineal trauma leads to Urinary, faecal and flatus (wind) incontinence in a quarter of the population, sexual dysfunction for 60% Vaginal or rectal prolapse minor or severe in just under 10%.

In a HB a woman is likely to be a great deal calmer. This minimises fetal distress and leads to better apgar outcomes and a much reduced rate of needing to be transferred for a section due to fetal distress. Four times as many babies need resuscitation of any kind in a hospital birth.

Having an artificial or assisted delivery or a non elective caesarean section, all of which are greatly increased if labouring in hospital makes a woman 5 times more likely to develop post-natal depression and to suffer guilt and regret about the outcome of her labour.

The average uncomplicated vaginal birth costs 68% less in a home than in a hospital, and births initiated in the home offer a lower combined rate of intrapartum and neonatal mortality and a lower incidence of cesarean delivery.

I don’t know about the incidence rates of MRSA or other infections during a hospital visit, but I know that a week spent in hospital is meant to increase your chances of exposure to infections like MRSA by 25 times.

Many fathers report homebirths to be much more satisfying, feeling freed up to offer support to their partner since they are in their own environment, and being able to stay with their wife and baby, rather than ushered away by midwives.

You also mentioned being around the experts. Call me cynical, but for a non complex labour I would much rather be around people who have a specific 3-5 year training in labour and an average of 300-500 seen deliveries per year. The average F1 or F2 doctor (formerly called junior and senior house officers), typically the first person to be called in an obstetric emergency has maybe viewed 5-10 births (generous estimate) one of our friends graduated as a doctor having seen one birth. He is not unusual. There are other reasons why I think being around people who are specifically trained to deal with obstetric emergencies rather than normal labour is more likely to make the labour complicated. This has also been demonstrated in the literature.

Ok I need to stress here that I am not saying ‘everyone who has a hospital birth is doing a bad or wrong thing’ definitely and certainly not. Each person must choose where she feels safest to labour. I absolutely respect that. This is simply my response to you saying why would anyone choose to labour away from a hospital. For me my safe place to labour was at home, with all of the above as my reasoning.

Love Weezl xxx