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Ryanair drops routes out of Manchester

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  • cannyscot_2
    cannyscot_2 Posts: 1,040 Forumite
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    Dreamwings how do you tell the ones moved to the next day?
  • cannyscot_2
    cannyscot_2 Posts: 1,040 Forumite
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    So despite the fact you could go from another airport nearby ie Liv instead of man they wont let you change with no cost? I thought they had to ? no-one got any experince of this?
  • Just phoned Ryanair and changed my return flight at no extra cost, just waiting now for email confirmation. Had to return a day later as the new schedule doesnt fly on a Sunday but its not a problem for me.

    Cannyscot......go online to the ryanair website and it has a flight schedule list.
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  • Would like to add though that the new flight ive booked was cheaper than the 1 I originally booked but they havent offered me a refund of any kind. Ah well least Im still going to be spending my 40th birthday with friends in Germany
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  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    Why didn't you just book the cheaper flight and get a refund for the more expensive cancelled one????
  • cannyscot_2
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    edited 20 August 2009 at 1:45PM
    Dreamywings 1 you are a star! and I am a doubting Thomas. I followed your advice called got the nicest woman-my 10p a min call lasted 2 or 3 mins and she transfered me to the aiport of my choice with no cost whatsoever. I have now had the e-mail confirmation. I was so shocked that I didn't ask about my husbands flight going out which is on a different day from us so I need to call back.


    O I am so sorry all the Ryanair haters but really I couldn't have asked for anything else!

    By the way for other folk -our original flight was Man-Gerona they had automatically moved us to Liverpool. Not a new flight but the original one the exsisted from Liverpool.


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  • cannyscot_2
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    Yes you can look online now and see your new booking ie what flight they have moved you to -they haven't sent e-mails yet but I guess it will happen soon.
  • Pssst
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    dmg24 wrote: »
    Most of your posts are based are what you think, but can you actually back it up with fact? :confused:

    Perhaps you could tell us what you think?

    The facts are that Geoff Muirhead, Chief Exec of Man airport has stated that the terms offered to Ryanair were very favourable but they refused to accept them and therefore chose to remove their services from Manairport.

    They wont be missed. Jet2 are coming to Manairport.

    All Ryanair are doing is messing up the travel arrangements of hundreds of their customers. Im sure they will not appreciate it and will think twice about using ryanair again.
  • cannyscot_2
    cannyscot_2 Posts: 1,040 Forumite
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    I see my post above got a great treatment over my cancelled man-gerona flight. They gave us a flight that is currently selling for 207 for the price we paid £10 and a flight we paid 25 for now selling 56 at no extra cost and gave us the choice of which airport-it suited us much better than the original.

    From Scotland it adds to type choice of flight we have and as long as you expect a bus type service you will not be disappointed.

    My children have now enjoyed probably around 24 extra trips and holidays
    over the last 7 years due to Ryanair.

    My guess is no matter the Man Airport deal it was too much to be able to afford me to pay .01p to £10 as I prefer.


    I fly a lot for travel and work and Ryanair are no worse no better than BA. My recent BA experience has been pretty shoddy all in all.
  • bagand96
    bagand96 Posts: 6,732 Forumite
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    Firstly, remeber that what I wrote was relevant quite a few years ago, the aircaft industry and changed dramatically since the last version of the "bible"

    User charges, like wage costs and fuel costs are largely externally determined. User charges give little room for manoueuver. While the airlines as a whole acting through IATA may try and hold down increases in landing fees and individual airline has no scope for negotiating better rates for itself. All are in the same boat.

    I wasn't questioning you as a hostile, more as a genuine question ;)

    Anyway, as you said, deregulation has swept through the industry, nowhere more so than the UK, which is pretty unique.

    Government policy in the 1980's dicated all airports had to become commercial operations, not municipal facilities. Consequently, all are airports our commercial companies, there to make a profit. Some of these companies are still largely owned by their previous council operators (i.e. MAG Plc at Manchester), some are completely privatised (BAA etc)

    In the UK we even went as far as part-privatising our UK airpsace air traffic control provider - NATS, formerly National Air Traffic Services. However, en-route charges, for aircraft flying in UK airspace are dictated by the government, so that the now privatsed NATS can't just charge what it wants. The current system is linked to RPI.

    However, the landing fees at individual airports are negotiable, as the airports are a commercial business. They publish a fee, but the airport and airlines that operate regularly will negotiate, and airlines rarely pay published fees. The government have very little hand in this, although they do regulate some charges - e.g. in London where BAA own nearly all the major airports, but that is to stop anti-competitive charging.

    So while in the UK en-route charging is fixed, airport landing fees are very much negotiable, the airports have to compete to make themselves attractive.

    Anyway, way off topic now. Bottom line is tht Ryanair and Manchester Airport plc sat round the table and negotiated. Ryanair wanted it cheap, and Manchester airport offered their best deal, this wasnt cheap enough for Ryanair so they are leaving. No big drama, just business. Ryanair need to make a profit, but so do Manchester Airport, they are not a charity there to facilitate Ryanair £1 flights.
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