wasp nest problem

tomsolomon

Lotus, what crawled up your leg???

:rotfl:

Lotus-eater

pendulum wrote: »

But then, I guess being a pro-life campaigner for wasps is a bit odd too.

I'm just wondering something. Have you ever sent white powder in the post to animal research labs?

I'm not a pro life nutter, I eat meat, kill my own animals to eat. Shoot, fish, eat anything I come across.

You were the daft one shouting, kill, kill, kill.

What I don't like is the modern human way of, everything must go that we don't understand or like. I've never said anything against and will support the removal and killing of pests, but killing indiscriminately just because you don't like it, or have a problem with it in your own mind, isn't right, whether it be a wasp, or a shark.

It always makes me laugh on here. One day you will see someone post how annoyed they are that cabbage white caterpillars have destroyed their brassicas, next day they will be posting how they killed off the wasp nest that lived down the end of their garden. :rolleyes:
Completely forgetting that the wasps would have dealt with many of the caterpillar problems, or not knowing, or not understanding.
So yes Jules, I will continue to try and make people understand the way things work better. If you don't want to read different viewpoints, don't read forums.

jules1964

There are times and places for this kind of discussion, but this certainly isn't the place let alone the time.

This is a forum about gardening, not for you to be trying to push your views on to other people.


I don't read forums where discussions like that are taking place as I have better things to do to be honest than listen to people trying to brainwash others. I did however think a forum on gardening and gardening tips would be free from people who like the sound of there own voice and try to push there own views on to others.......we are not interested, go and find a forum for people who are.

Regarding your comment if you don't want viewpoints don't read forums....I do wants viewpoints but on GARDENING which is what this is for!!!!

I know you will come back with yet another answer as can't seem to accept we are not interested. I won't be acknowledging you as I have learnt the best way to treat someone who insists on pushing there views when nobody else is interested is ignore them.

Lotus-eater

jules1964 wrote: »

There are times and places for this kind of discussion, but this certainly isn't the place let alone the time.

This is a forum about gardening, not for you to be trying to push your views on to other people.

Well, I disagree that I was pushing my views on people, I was airing my views, I can't make people think the way I do, I try to get them to see the whole picture and I thought we were discussing wasps in the garden.

Your whole input to the question, was hate, hate, another's, was kill kill kill. Well sometimes there are other ways of looking at things.

I think I push the middle ground, advising getting rid of pests when needed, but asking the question, is it needed? And btw, you know they do a vital service....

Your way smacks of the letter page in "The Sun" and instead of discussing it in an adult and normal way, you stick your fingers over your ears and sing.

jules1964

I have been looking at wasp nest pictures on the internet, some of them are absolutely enormous. There is a clip on you tube where a nest was smoked out for the larvae, was very interesting to watch.

Davesnave

Oh dear Lotus, we have touched a nerve here! Some really nasty comments which don't deserve any response, plus a suggestion that we shouldn't debate things on a gardening forum. That's just plain ridiculous. There are different ways of gardening, so people are going to support different approaches. Also, being the crowded island that we are, what happens in millions of people's gardens is as important as what happens in the countryside.

For the record, Lotus-eater and I enjoy observing nature and working out how to deal with the less desirable effects of animals behaving in the way that is natural for them. Sometimes this does involve intervention which kills the animal concerned, either directly, or indirectly. So we are not 'vegetable rights & peace' tree huggers! On the other hand, if we can leave well alone, we do.

In my posts, I pointed out that, at present, there don't seem to be that many wasps in the nests I have, nor are they causing any problems. That might change as the season progresses, and I noted that too. The information was there for anyone with a money-saving interest (what this site is about!!!) and half a brain, to infer that if they wish to, now is the time to self-treat similar nests. It may more dangerous to do it later, when the wasps might become a nuisance.

As Lotus points out, that isn't going to make a whole heap of difference, either way, if a neighbour a few doors away has a similar nest going full term!

Personally, I'm disappointed that I shall leave this house in a week or two and so will never know if these nests will prove benign or unwelcome come the autumn. Even then, it wouldn't take the wisdom of Solomon to work out a way to deal with them without paying a £45 fee, as they are in the ground, with one way in and out.;)

As to whether the nest is football-shaped, I've no idea, and I'm not digging it up to find out!

jules1964

Davesnave wrote: »

I have German mining wasps in my garden; one nest underground by the front door and one under the wild lawn out at the back. They are no problem at all, compared with the usual variety & haven't come into the house or taken any notice of us.

Unfortunately, this is only a temporary base, as I've bought another house, so I'll never know if these little wasps will cause a nuisance later in the season. I'd guess they might go for fruit when it's ripe. Going on previous form, my landlord would be too tight to employ pest control if I asked, so I've not mentioned these well established colonies. They'll be a nice surprise for him at the end of the month!

Are you intending telling your landlord when you leave about the wasp nest.

Davesnave

jules1964 wrote: »

Are you intending telling your landlord when you leave about the wasp nest.

Well, I've told him about the leak in the roof where the water drips and just misses my computer before landing in a bucket I placed there months ago, the outside tap that doesn't work and host of minor things that ought to be fixed when one is paying £1k a month. Guess what? He doesn't want to know.

What makes you think he'll want to know about wasps' nests?

jules1964

Well, I think he should know incase he lets the house to a new family with small children, it would be terrible if they got stung. I saw a documentary recently about a little girl who died after her father and her were stung by wasps. He survived as he managed to fight the toxins, sadly she was too young and her organs all gave up.

Davesnave

No worries; it's going to professionals, sharing.

To quote your own words:

This is a forum about gardening, not for you to be trying to push your views on to other people.

Shall we leave it there?