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HOUSE BREAKING - Support Thread (Mind your pee's and poo's!)

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  • Hi,

    I have been reading this thread with interest and wondered if anyone has any ideas about my dog!?

    Basically she is 13 months old. We have had her since she was 18 weeks. She is a lhasa and was hard to house train. Now she is always clean and dry (are they the right words for a dog - LOL!) when we are in. Also is we leave her in our small laundry room she is fine. However, if we try to be 'kind' - for example leaving her in the kitchen where there is more room, she will often wee ) or occasionally poo) - even if left for a short time. Today was unbelievable though. Hubby was taking daughter to holiday club and the dog was fast asleep in the living room in her basket. He thought he would leave her there and was literally 10 minutes before returning. When he went upstairs he found a poo and wee ON OUR BED and another wee on ther bathroom floor. The dog is not allowed upstairs and knows this - she doesn't even try normally. Why ever would she do this? Climbing onto our bed to do her business? Bizarre. We are having a night under the throw whilst I wash all the bedding and quilt itself!!! Thanks a lot dog!

    I can't understand why she is good when in the laundry room - but cannot be trusted anywhere else. Any ideas would be gladly received.
  • supermezzo
    supermezzo Posts: 1,055 Forumite
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    Some dogs just don't feel 'safe' in larger spaces that's all. If you couple that with her waking up and finding everyone gone, you're likely to get a stressed dog who has accidents if they're that way inclined.
    I'd leave her in the place she feels safe and stop worrying about it tbh.
    It aint over til I've done singing....
  • Raksha
    Raksha Posts: 4,569 Forumite
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    Hi,

    Today was unbelievable though. Hubby was taking daughter to holiday club and the dog was fast asleep in the living room in her basket. He thought he would leave her there and was literally 10 minutes before returning. When he went upstairs he found a poo and wee ON OUR BED and another wee on ther bathroom floor. The dog is not allowed upstairs and knows this - she doesn't even try normally. Why ever would she do this? Climbing onto our bed to do her business? Bizarre. We are having a night under the throw whilst I wash all the bedding and quilt itself!!! Thanks a lot dog!

    I can't understand why she is good when in the laundry room - but cannot be trusted anywhere else. Any ideas would be gladly received.

    1) The dog didn't know she was only going to be alone for 10 mins. She went to sleep with everyone there, and woke up and they were gone!

    2) The dog doesn't know she's not allowed upstairs, she only knows she's not allowed up there when there is any one in the house. Bedrooms are very intense places for smells, and when she feels abandoned by her family, she reassures herself by getting a double dose of family smells and making sure everyone remembers she is a member of the family, but this is a dogs way.

    Make sure bedroom doors etc. are closed before going out, or even better, gently wake her and pop her in the laundry where she feels safe before going out. As has been mentioned, it's not uncommon for dogs to feel safer confined in a small area, which is why crate training works for so many.
    Please forgive me if my comments seem abrupt or my questions have obvious answers, I have a mental health condition which affects my ability to see things as others might.
  • Hi all - can I join in this thread? :j

    We have an 18 week old Jack Russell who is a stubborn little thing! So far we have him paper trained which I'm quite pleased with as we have had no accidents on the carpet for over 3 weeks now. I've just started moving the paper outside the door and he seems to be managing that well too so I hope that means we are getting there. He doesn't give any warning when he is about to wee though, he just runs and does it so I think I am going to find it hard when the door has to be closed, maybe he will have learned how to tell us he needs to go by then. I'm not even sure if we've done the right thing by paper training him rather than just taking him straight outside but it seems to have worked for us. For all those still struggling keep trying as the love and fun you get out of your doggies is worth a little accident now and again.
  • Hi all - can I join in this thread? :j

    We have an 18 week old Jack Russell who is a stubborn little thing! So far we have him paper trained which I'm quite pleased with as we have had no accidents on the carpet for over 3 weeks now. I've just started moving the paper outside the door and he seems to be managing that well too so I hope that means we are getting there. He doesn't give any warning when he is about to wee though, he just runs and does it so I think I am going to find it hard when the door has to be closed, maybe he will have learned how to tell us he needs to go by then. I'm not even sure if we've done the right thing by paper training him rather than just taking him straight outside but it seems to have worked for us. For all those still struggling keep trying as the love and fun you get out of your doggies is worth a little accident now and again.

    Hi there
    we also have a Jack Russell, he's 14 weeks on Friday :j He's paper trained, has the odd accident, seems to get right to the edge of the paper and just misses. He's not allowed out 'walkies' until this Friday, we can't wait!!

    I let him in the garden this week (vet advised to keep him in until a week after his second injection) so fingers crossed he will eventually pee and poop out there, wish me luck!!! :rotfl: :rotfl:
  • Thanks Raksha and supermezzo for your replies. I suppose that makes sense. It just 'feels' kinder to give her more room. I suppose that is the human perspective though, and not a sensitive doggy one.......
  • Raksha
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    Think dog ;)
    Please forgive me if my comments seem abrupt or my questions have obvious answers, I have a mental health condition which affects my ability to see things as others might.
  • katchambers
    katchambers Posts: 1,129 Forumite
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    manda1205 wrote: »
    Hope you're having a better day today Kat, mine has not gone so well. We'd had 4 dry days and 3 dry nights.
    Anyway back to square one again and I just hope that now I can keep her dry for the rest of the day. Fingers crossed!
    Congrats on the 3/4 dry days and nights, that's really good. The most we have done is 47hrs! I have to go back to zero dry time every 2 days at the moment - its tough but I hope that eventually it will increase.

    Hi all - can I join in this thread? :j

    We have an 18 week old Jack Russell who is a stubborn little thing! So far we have him paper trained which I'm quite pleased with as we have had no accidents on the carpet for over 3 weeks now.

    Wow - so impressed, so young to be so well house broken! Guess I am not very good at this house breaking thing, it took my collie 10 months and now we are doing it again with a rescue. Welcome to the thread! :beer:
    Hi there
    we also have a Jack Russell, he's 14 weeks on Friday :j He's paper trained, has the odd accident, seems to get right to the edge of the paper and just misses. He's not allowed out 'walkies' until this Friday, we can't wait!!

    I let him in the garden this week (vet advised to keep him in until a week after his second injection) so fingers crossed he will eventually pee and poop out there, wish me luck!!! :rotfl: :rotfl:

    Hi and welcome! :beer: Good luck!


    So last night we thought we would try something new and let the dogs sleep out on the landing and by the front door, that is how we kept our collie dry - unfortunately our GSD is much more vocal and decided to wake us up with her barking at 4am! Was not pleased so back into the lounge. We woke up to a small pee, not too bad but still back to zero again!

    Took her out for a walk and she was really quite agressive with some kids, it scared me, and them and made me upset, so I had a thought, perhaps I can get her one of those nylon muzzles that the vet used when cheking her ears. Went to pets at home and purchased one and will see how she gets on with that. We need her to let people into our house, so far she is doing the scarey bark to scare everyone away and its debilitating, the muzzle is supposed to stop or at least suppress the barking so will try that.

    Dry time = 14 hours.

    Kat x
    My darling boy born December 2011

  • Kat - sorry to hear about the incident with the kids - what happened, did she just bark, or snap at them?

    The nylon muzzles are no good for walks - they are ok for short periods, like vet visits, but tend to stop the dog being able to open their mouth enough to pant properly - which is their way of cooling down. Dogs are far more easily overheated than humans, and can have fits and even die quite quicky as a result (which is why dogs can die so quickly in hot cars) - basket type muzzles whoch allow the dog to pant are far safer for the dog.

    I wonder if crate training your dog would help her learn to stay dry at night, as it seems she does quite well in the day?

  • I let him in the garden this week (vet advised to keep him in until a week after his second injection) so fingers crossed he will eventually pee and poop out there, wish me luck!!! :rotfl: :rotfl:

    Morning all

    Well i don't believe it, i let my pooch out in the garden this morning and he peed and pooped :j :T

    Have a lovely day all :D
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