Refused booze in tesco again

smk77

nikki2804 wrote: »

Im just waiting on a supermarket refusing to sell me alcohol because my 7 week old son hasnt got ID rofl!!

I've read the first page of this thread and the last few. So, let me get this right. If I shop in Tesco and take my 15 month old son with my and buy alcohol then there is a chance that I'll be refused? Reason being because I may give it to my son? So, Tesco come all responsible then when it comes to drinking? Why on earth do they pile up these 3 boxes for £18 type beer offers at the front door? Responsible eh!

What happens if I order online at Tesco and when the driver delievers alcohol he sees my son. Does he refuse to deliver because I may give it to him?

GettingHitched wrote: »

If you look under 25, then you are going to asked to prove your age, like it or lump. Its isnt you who is risking their job/a fine/jail sentence

I got id'd last year in Morrison's by some young lad who looked just out of school. He clearly would have known that I looked much older that him and his mates but hetold me that he had to ask. When I questioned why he said that it was because I looked under 25. Sorry but I clearly don't! So, it doesn't matter if you look under 25 you may have to prove your age anyway thus making the "Under 25" rule pointless.

mustrum_ridcully

GettingHitched wrote: »

As someone who works for Tesco ( Checkouts ) I just want to put my side across.

As a member of staff, if we are cuaght selling alcohol to anyone under age , then its the member of staff who gets the £5k fine, possible jail sentence, and lost a job.

The increased age threshold was introduced to protect both staff in stores selling alcohol/age restricted items to minors ( will also refuse to people who are already under the influence, and anyone who we suspect may be buying the item for a minor ) Would you rather that stores were not so strict on items, and you find one of your loved ones in a ditch out of his or her face on vodka/cider, or ends up hospitalised from glue sniffing, firework abuse or anything else?

If you have been asked for ID at a Tesco ( or any other store ) then how hard is it for you to take a form of ID with you ( Passport, Driving Licence, or a recognised photo id )

However all you're treating is the symptom not the cause, choosing the easy way out. Sadly this seems to be the British way now, if there's a problem just increase rules and regulation.

The ignored unforeseen consequence with this approach could be that teenagers can't get alcohol but still want to get their kicks and I bet your local friendly drug dealer will be happy to arrange something. These people are criminals already so they aren't going to "Think 25", they don't care if they sell a 15 year old dope or smack or coke or meth. All the dealers care about is getting their money and we end-up with teenagers stealing or mugging grannies to fund their habit.

The only way to stop this problem is to the change the way alcohol is viewed in the UK and to disuade teenagers from wanting to go out and get drunk in the first place - not at all easy...

frivolous_fay

GettingHitched wrote: »

If you have been asked for ID at a Tesco ( or any other store ) then how hard is it for you to take a form of ID with you ( Passport, Driving Licence, or a recognised photo id )

I sympathise with your situation. But my passport is worth £72 and is a lot easier to lose or have stolen than anything else I might have on me.

I don't drive. I can well imagine that other 'accepted' forms of photo ID are likely to be next to useless in the face of someone who isn't familiar with it. (Oh, and I assume they cost money also) And I get IDed so rarely... so why bother with ID most shops don't ask for? Why get my passport all bashed up in my bag? And I'm not getting any younger...

FWIW, I order online just to avoid this kind of nonsense. I am 32 but I got IDed in Tesco a month or so ago - by a lady who has worked there for donkeys years, and has served me regularly over the last 9 years. I didn't make a fuss - I left the wine and went to Nicolas :rolleyes:

I accept that being IDed is apparently the price I pay for supposedly looking sub-25 (cough... yeah right)
But back to the original subject - refusing to serve customers with children is inane.

Dr.Rock

GettingHitched wrote: »

If you have been asked for ID at a Tesco ( or any other store ) then how hard is it for you to take a form of ID with you ( Passport, Driving Licence, or a recognised photo id )

I always carry a form of ID around with me. It's called the face of a man obviously over 25. :mad:
Even then I like to think I look a bit younger than I am. I'm quite disappointed that the only time I've been IDd in the last 10 years was in a country where the drinking age is 19 and we were with some girls who looked younger than that (but weren't).

mr_fishbulb

Dr.Rock wrote: »

I always carry a form of ID around with me. It's called the face of a man obviously over 25.

Some women use that as ID too.

nickmack

GettingHitched wrote: »

As a member of staff, if we are cuaght selling alcohol to anyone under age , then its the member of staff who gets the £5k fine, possible jail sentence, and lost a job.

I wrote earlier about the pressure that some of these laws and company policies put on staff.

Although what you've quoted is the maximum penalty, I'm interested to hear if you've ever known or heard of anyone actually who's incurred this?

In the article below, a shop worker is fined £80 after they 'had been warned several times about serving juvenilles'.

http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/4195026.Fined_for_serving_underage_drinkers/

cirrusmp wrote:

To be fair, the police and licensing authorities aren't bothered about what "should" happen, they will prosecute anyway.

I find it difficult to believe that action would be taken against a member of staff who sold alcohol, if the consensus from the store supervisor and/or authorities is they look over 25, but actually turn out to be 17.

It is a defence to prove:
a) that you believed that the person was not under 18; AND
b) either that you had taken all reasonable steps to establish the person's age OR that nobody could reasonably have suspected from his/her appearance that the person was under 18.

Ste_C

Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »

Why on earth would I carry a valuable item such as a passport round with me?

I know how you feel. It's such a big risk that I refuse to travel abroad in case my passport goes missing. I just keep it locked in my combination safe in the loft.

mr_fishbulb

Ste_C wrote: »

I know how you feel. It's such a big risk that I refuse to travel abroad in case my passport goes missing. I just keep it locked in my combination safe in the loft.

You don't need to carry it around with you all the time just in case you felt the urge to travel overseas. But you would do if you used it for proof of age in shops.

System

I don't drive but still have a provisional licence. I've been using it as id for about 5 years now

I've noticed it's older people who seem to kick up the most fuss. Most people under 25 are accustomed to being ID and expect it (and accept it).

sarahg1969

GettingHitched wrote: »

If you have been asked for ID at a Tesco ( or any other store ) then how hard is it for you to take a form of ID with you ( Passport, Driving Licence, or a recognised photo id )

What about being asked for ID for a 14 year old child who is in school uniform?

What about refusing to serve someone who has provided ID, because they are only 22, not 25?

And what about an older person who might be lucky enough to look about 25, say someone who probably looks a youthful late-thirties - but is clearly not underage?

Is it Tesco's fault for not giving their staff adequate training, or is the staff who just don't understand?

And didn't someone mention that she was told in Tesco that a driving licence is not sufficient ID, and they would only accept a passport?