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Can noise from kids be anti social behaviour?

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  • C_Mababejive
    C_Mababejive Posts: 11,668 Forumite
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    edited 16 July 2010 at 12:20PM
    Havent read all the posts in detail.

    I wonder if the OP has children?

    Things can only get better....the school holidays are just round the corner and i guess your only saviour is bad weather !

    I think the time has come for gated communities in the UK so that we can choose to live in an environment in which there are rules for all who live there.

    Until then, you will just have to live with it becuase it appears they are doing nothing unlawful.

    Dont you realise that in babybreeding Britain, kids belong to everyone ?

    As an aside..and thinking of chavtastic kids names..i heard the ultimate the other day.

    A member of the underclass shouting...wait for it.....Cherokee,Cherokee....! I ducked,thinking it was a warning and that an arrow was about to skim past my ear. A rare sight in suburbia,but no,it was the female infant known as Cherokee..!
    Feudal Britain needs land reform. 70% of the land is "owned" by 1 % of the population and at least 50% is unregistered (inherited by landed gentry). Thats why your slave box costs so much..
  • System
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    edited 16 July 2010 at 7:52AM
    janninew wrote: »
    Perhaps we need some child free neighbourhoods?? We have lots of retirement villages where i live, my Nan lives in one, and its lovely and peaceful! So why not child free neighbourhoods! :confused:

    can we please also have bbq free estates , its not the kids around here causing the problems its the idiots who think the minute the sun comes out they have to light up .

    to all the moaners were you as quiet as a church mouse as a kid ? kids these days are dammed if they do and dammed if they dont , on one hand there are people complaining that they spend too much time using electronics and need to get out more then others complain cos they are out having fun. there are too many people with rose tinted glasses yearning for the "good old days" .when i was a kid 30+ yrs ago things were no different.
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  • Big_Melons
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    I have only just started letting my 12 year old (has Aspergers) and 10 year old out to play, I felt I was being selfish keeping them in, now it seems people think you are selfish if you let them out. My neighbours used to complain that they made too much noise in the garden (no kids on our street when we moved in so they had peace for quite a few years, then we turn up... oops), just yesterday a neighbour complained she didn't like kids coming to my door to knock for my boys as every time they knocked on my door it woke her up, what am I supposed to do? If I keep them in she moans, if I let them out she moans.

    I read on here that parents are selfish? I think you will find sometimes (not all the time mind you) it's the people that want a nice quiet life that are selfish. I went to a coffee shop the other day and it was full of mums and screaming babies, done my head in but what can I do? Nothing of course, would be selfish of me to want them gone, though I did a little cheer in my head when they did !!!!!! off ;-)
  • qetu1357
    qetu1357 Posts: 1,013 Forumite
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    kevinyork wrote: »
    Thanks to all of you so far for your constructive comments.

    I think even if I were to speak with my neighbours it would have little benefit. The nearest one has 4 kids and from the back garden if their windows or doors are open all you can hear if the mother shouting "NO!' loudly and about every minute or so therefore it seems she cant instill any discipline in them in her own home nevermind when playing outside.

    Last night it was 10.15 till they all went in. Some of them are about 6 and 7 years old.....isnt this too late to be out? I know its a weekend but 10.15.

    Moving is an option if we could sell though I can't imagine potential buyers being too happy about wading through a sea of screaming kids to view our home nor seeing the rusting hulk of what was a Ford Transit van that never shifts from our neighbours drive and creates a constant river of engine oil running down their drive onto the road.

    Today looks like it may rain - Oh joy of joys. At least they stay in when it rains.

    6 to 7 year olds should not be up to 10.15 at night. A child this age needs around 11 hours sleep so should be in bed by 8 to 8.30 at the very latest.
  • Laz123
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    Just a small suggestion:

    Stink bombs strategically placed...
  • hippyadam
    hippyadam Posts: 645 Forumite
    Retrod wrote: »

    Children playing on the street is indefensible. Children using footballs on the street today, will equal children bullying on the street next year, may equal anti-social behavior on the street in a few years from now. Juvenile and criminality studies have exposed such chronology, and lazy parents down deep know this issue. Saying I love children is actually saying I don't care and I don't plan on changing my complacent behavior so let the kids scream or play on the street, or play on the interstate.

    Next time a parent says that their loud, screaming children is eqivalent to children will be children, look them straight in the eye and accuse them of being poor parents on the brink of being abusive.

    Wow, that has to be the biggest load of pap i've read on this board in a long time...

    Playing football = robbing grannies next year? Your mad!

    If you don't have enough trust in your kids to let them play out, how are they ever going to learn to identify risks in the real world?

    And what about all the studies demonstrating the detriment of keeping your kids wrapped up in cotton wool and confined to the house?

    I have good relations with a majority of my neighbours with ages from 21 to 85 and my 10yr old knows that if he gets up to no good, i have no objection at all to those neighbours pulling him up or coming to my door.

    Thankfully he may be loud sometimes, but he's courteous & considerate and he keeps himself out of trouble.
  • Big_Melons
    Big_Melons Posts: 225 Forumite
    qetu1357 wrote: »
    6 to 7 year olds should not be up to 10.15 at night. A child this age needs around 11 hours sleep so should be in bed by 8 to 8.30 at the very latest.

    I agree, my kids are in by 7pm while it is still light at night, will change when it gets dark early, their friends still knock on our door at 10pm, I kid you not, a little boy over the road who is only 6 but is the size of a 3 year old knocked at 9ish the other night, some people are clearly crazy.
  • lolly1981
    lolly1981 Posts: 746 Forumite
    see im in 2 minds about this...kids will be kids and if theyre just playing football, running around etc then it shouldnt be a problem, there are so many dangers out there for them to deal with that they have to grow up so fast that if they can be kids for as long as possible then alls the better. i do agree that they shouldnt scream lol but you just need to go out and ask them nicely, it isnt the end of the world.
    from how youve described the children and what they are doing they dont seem like the sort who will stab you for saying keep it down abit lol.

    we used to spend all our time outside, we hated being cooped up inside. we never caused any harm...we would literally be out from about 9 till at least tea time...only came in for toilet and food lol. we'd go out on bikes, build dens in the woods, ride skateboards all teh things kids should be doing, im sure we made alot of noise just like im sure all of you did as kids.

    just remember the main thing you were all young once and no doubt were a little noisy at time.
  • Hsl500
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    Big_Melons wrote: »
    I have only just started letting my 12 year old (has Aspergers) and 10 year old out to play, I felt I was being selfish keeping them in, now it seems people think you are selfish if you let them out. My neighbours used to complain that they made too much noise in the garden (no kids on our street when we moved in so they had peace for quite a few years, then we turn up... oops), just yesterday a neighbour complained she didn't like kids coming to my door to knock for my boys as every time they knocked on my door it woke her up, what am I supposed to do? If I keep them in she moans, if I let them out she moans.

    I read on here that parents are selfish? I think you will find sometimes (not all the time mind you) it's the people that want a nice quiet life that are selfish. I went to a coffee shop the other day and it was full of mums and screaming babies, done my head in but what can I do? Nothing of course, would be selfish of me to want them gone, though I did a little cheer in my head when they did !!!!!! off ;-)


    I feel for you I have 5 boys no garden and 4 of them are special need adhd, asd x 3 and mild cerabal palsy , my neighbours are forever banging on the wall its to loud but I have a 12yr old with severe adhd who screams high pitch , 5 yr old who chants loudly, and mos of the time all the do is cry and fight ,
    hugs x


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  • kevinyork
    kevinyork Posts: 1,230 Forumite
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    Well this thread seems to have just been re-ignited.

    Out of interest, I posted this thread in mid July 2009. Shortly afterwards, realising that

    a) we could not continue putting up with the noise and

    b) that in reality there is absolutely nothing (legal) that we could do about it we put our house on the market. We got an offer in September and moved out in November 2009!

    I cannot tell you the relief that came from moving out and the stress that was lifted off us. We now live in a quiet village in a small close of a few houses occupied mainly by retired couples. There is one family in one of the houses but we are surrounded by open fields so we never see the kids (who are lovely anyway). It is so quiet and the only noise are the Birds! Fingers crossed it always stays that way.

    I would advise anyone who is considering purchasing on a medium to large new housing development to think about their proximity to areas where kids can congregate and how that would impact upon them.
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