Can noise from kids be anti social behaviour?

hippyadam

Can noise from kids be anti social behaviour?

I would have to say in my humble opinion no, it does not constitute anti-social behaviour. Nor in my opinion, should it.

I am a parent of a 2yr old & a 9yr old, the 9yr old is regularly charging about with his friends/neighbours on our street. They ride bikes & skateboards, play football, climb trees & generally just enjoy the freedom that comes with being 9yrs old. Yes sometimes they are loud, sometimes they are messy & sometimes they don't think their actions through but that is to be expected from a 9yr old.

Neither he nor his friends act in an any way criminal or anti social, they do not damage property, they do not verbally abuse anyone & i would be the first person out on the street grilling them all if they did!

I would recommend the OP ask the kids in question if they wouldn't mind playing on the lovely new council built park or dialling down the noise level after 8pm or before 11am say.

But an ASBO for playing in the street? That's just ridiculous.

If you want any further clarification check out the govs own guidance here:
http://www.crimereduction.homeoffice.gov.uk/antisocialbehaviour/antisocialbehaviour55.htm

Edited to remove the bold.

mrcol1000

hippyadam wrote: »

Can noise from kids be anti social behaviour?

I would have to say in my humble opinion no, it does not constitute anti-social behaviour. Nor in my opinion, should it.

I am a parent of a 2yr old & a 9yr old, the 9yr old is regularly charging about with his friends/neighbours on our street. They ride bikes & skateboards, play football, climb trees & generally just enjoy the freedom that comes with being 9yrs old. Yes sometimes they are loud, sometimes they are messy & sometimes they don't think their actions through but that is to be expected from a 9yr old.

Neither he nor his friends act in an any way criminal or anti social, they do not damage property, they do not verbally abuse anyone & i would be the first person out on the street grilling them all if they did!

I would recommend the OP ask the kids in question if they wouldn't mind playing on the lovely new council built park or dialling down the noise level after 8pm or before 11am say.

But an ASBO for playing in the street? That's just ridiculous.

If you want any further clarification check out the govs own guidance here:
http://www.crimereduction.homeoffice.gov.uk/antisocialbehaviour/antisocialbehaviour55.htm

Edited to remove the bold.

Unless your outside at all times watching your 9 year old how do you know they are not swearing or causing a nusiance? In a previous job I use to deal with anti-social behaviour on school buses and either the parent said they would beat their child till they were blue or refused to belive their child could do anything wrong. Even when we showed one parent CCTV of their 10 year old using a lighter to set fire to another kids head they refused to accept their child would do something like that.

Blackpool_Saver

izzybusy23 wrote: »

Its the Magpies I hate.. they don't even chirp, but cackle.. now them damn things are noisy and they start at the first light of dawn...

Yes we call it sparrows wind passing as opposed to sparrows fart !!

Sorry to be having jokes on a serious thread.

frugallass

if they are decent kids you might be able to negotiate - say that there is a baby / elderly person in the vicinity and the noise sometimes disturbs and upsets them.

if you find it difficult to approach them, ask your community bobby to call round on his skateboard, mountain bike or whatever mode of transport they have these days and have a 'quiet word in their ears' LOL !

hippyadam

mrcol1000 wrote: »

Unless your outside at all times watching your 9 year old how do you know they are not swearing or causing a nusiance? In a previous job I use to deal with anti-social behaviour on school buses and either the parent said they would beat their child till they were blue or refused to belive their child could do anything wrong. Even when we showed one parent CCTV of their 10 year old using a lighter to set fire to another kids head they refused to accept their child would do something like that.

I worked in PRU schools & young offenders/secure units, so maybe i have a higher tolerance to challenging behaviour than other people. Who knows...

However i do know i have good relationships with 99% of my neighbours & they know that if they see my young un acting in such a way as to cause a nuisance that i am quite happy for them to tell him to knock it off & bring it to my attention.

What i will not do is keep him hostage inside all summer long because of the 1% who seem to think having a kick around on the street or riding a bike is in the same league as smoking crack & abusing little old ladies.

Ivory_Tinkler

Well said hippyadam - there are lots of lovely kids out there just having fun. Unfortunately, just having fun is often seen as being criminal by some folk which is very sad.

mrcol1000

hippyadam wrote: »

I worked in PRU schools & young offenders/secure units, so maybe i have a higher tolerance to challenging behaviour than other people. Who knows...

However i do know i have good relationships with 99% of my neighbours & they know that if they see my young un acting in such a way as to cause a nuisance that i am quite happy for them to tell him to knock it off & bring it to my attention.

What i will not do is keep him hostage inside all summer long because of the 1% who seem to think having a kick around on the street or riding a bike is in the same league as smoking crack & abusing little old ladies.

Well thats all well and good but sadly not all parents are as thoughtful and responsible as you. From the orginal post it sounds like the kids that are causing the nusiance are the ones who parents kick them out first thing and don't want to see them again until the evening.

maggie111

kevinyork wrote: »

Moving is an option if we could sell though I can't imagine potential buyers being too happy about wading through a sea of screaming kids to view our home nor seeing the rusting hulk of what was a Ford Transit van that never shifts from our neighbours drive and creates a constant river of engine oil running down their drive onto the road.

You'd be surprised at how estate agents sell it as a bonus for family properties all these kids running about! And plenty of people have a car for tinkering with. Worth thinking about - and don't forget, your house may be valued for less, but as long as you're not in negative equity your next house will be reduced in price too, so you lose nothing in this economy

poppy1234_2

Just to add my thoughts on the issue of noisy children playing in the street. We live on a small close in a well respected market town. The close consists of some shared ownership properties and mostly rented houses. We have a large number of difficult families whose children have started to take over the street. I have 3 children myself and a very small garden and this is the second year they have had to stay inside, unless we leave the street. When they go out they are teased and bullied and it has made our life hell. It has now go to the point where you do not go want to go out of the house as it is uncomfortable. More and more children are playing and we now have noise, swearing and climbing into gardens for 12 hours a day. With house prices the only way out is to rent even though both me and husband have respectable jobs in the local council. Nothing can be done and I am now unable to work at home due to the noise.
The street we live has become well known as the worse area in the town and I now lie about where I live and do not invite friends around. We spend years trying to afford a house and we now have to deal with this situation. The damage litter, cars and noise has made it look awful as well.

And this is a very small close in a desirable country town. Sorry this is an issue that I feel very strongly about. What can be done to ensure this 4 year old close is not destroyed by both the children and their parents.

tbw

hpsaucey wrote: »

We have exactly the same problem in our street. When we moved here 10yrs ago there was maybe 1-2 kids bliss. now there is over 15 of them all under 11.We live next door to a couple with 3 kids 5 dogs/5 ferrets.other side has 3 kids and 2 dogs. What annoys me the most is that the parents of all these kids DO NOTHING at all to stop the kids from shouting/screaming/riding bikes/playing football.In fact most of them are drinking all day and get very abusive if you shift the kids or say anything to them[none of them work but get 24 cans beer most days]. 2 Weeks ago someone reported my neighbours for the dogs fighting and barking, I was going to do it but subsequently someone beat me to it. Nevertheless the one night we go out we returned to find 2 of our tyres slashed on the car. When asked if anyone saw anything of course they didnt. In fact neighbour said"sorry we all in the kitchen having a drink when u came in so no we didnt see anything [lie no 1 as they were all in front room,we saw them]lie no 2. when told my tyres had been punctured was told"I wouldnt dare slash your tyres with a knife I would probably cut myself with it"WHO MENTIONED A KNIFE. and 3 she was going around telling everyone that would listen that I had laid them in until hubby told her I hadnt that someone beat us to it. Council asked us to keep an eye on them but we had to refuse as carnt afford anymore tyres. Have asked to move but feel very aggrieved that we have to when we arent the problem. so we are stuck with it for the forseeeable future unless someone else complains.unfortunately we are all pension age and very wary about saying anything to them

How inconsiderate of you to take this attitude - surely you know that it is everyone else's Human Right to do exactly as they perishing well please regardless of the effect it has on everyone else!!! Screeching kids in the street, kids running riot and chucking food around in restaurants completing spoiling other diners meals, dogs barking for hours, neighbours who block your access with their cars - why shouldn't they do exactly as they like ?

These days , many people seem to feel that nobody else's feelings count and they carry on doing whatever they want without a second thought. And they bring their children up to think the same. Many people are too scared to complain cos all they get is a mouthful of abuse, or worse. Personally I'm fed up to the back teeth with being expected to take all this crap from ignorant, inconsiderate prats and their offspring !